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[–] 7rokhym 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My work PC has W11. Microsoft ruined the start menu. I removed all the icons off the Start menu as it is simply useless and has zero practical functional except to shutdown the PC because Shutdown can't be found with search.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

My work PC was upgraded to 11 last night, when I go back to the office I'm switching to Linux.

[–] hperrin 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lolwut? They made the Start Menu with JavaScript? Who are they, me?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

To be fair, a lot of graphical toolkits in the UNIX ecosystem use JS as well. One profilic example would be the GNOME JavaScript.

Nevertheless, they all don't do this terribly with performance.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

When Ai vibe coders are in charge of projects... They have no fucking clue what they are doing, but Ai yo! Start menu is slow? We have no fucking clue how to fix it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The start menu being React Native is irrelevant. If it were React in an Edge web view that would be a different story.

Opening the start menu should cause a spike in CPU usage. You want the CPU to open the menu ASAP instead of dragging out the process so the CPU usage is more flat.

But everything in Windows these days is wasting time stealing your data, loading ads or other unnecessary data from cloud services, and interacting with "AI." Performance is one of the lowest priorities, somewhere between software quality and privacy. Since mid Windows 10, Microsoft consistently replaces things with modernized, but worse, versions and never returns to finish making the new version as good as the previous version that evolved over decades. It's a really expensive way to ruin a product. They could make a React Native start menu where people wouldn't complain about the performance. They probably did and people are only noticing now because of a recent regression.

[–] hperrin 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Back when I wrote my own start menu replacement (for Windows XP), it worked by turning itself transparent and not responding to mouse input. When you clicked the start button, it would turn itself back to opaque and start responding to mouse input. This meant it opened in maybe 32 milliseconds if it was being particularly slow and took two frames to open instead of one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The Windows 11 UI is terrible, but you can fix it with Windhawk (FOSS)

My W11 24H2 Desktop and Startmenu

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

come to the penguin

[–] YurkshireLad 6 points 3 days ago

I thought and hoped this was a joke/meme.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I still cannot use search in the start menu, no idea why. It simply does not allow me to type.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago