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"Nuclear War: A Scenario" is a book about the scarcity of time, forcing readers to reflect on how close the world is to nuclear catastrophe. According to the vision presented by the book’s author, Annie Jacobsen, it becomes clear that in the event of a hypothetical nuclear conflict between the United States and North Korea, a global nuclear disaster would conclude within an hour.

Jacobsen’s depiction of the world paints a grim reality, showing readers what we should expect if the hands of the Doomsday Clock ever strike midnight. In shocking detail, the author describes how the world would be reduced to ashes in just 72 minutes.

When one considers that space-based infrared satellites can detect ballistic missile launches within seconds, and a North Korean intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) would take roughly 30 minutes to reach its target, the U.S. president would have only about six minutes after receiving a nuclear attack notification to launch around 400 Minuteman III ICBMs. The author divides this nuclear conflict scenario into three 24-minute segments, demonstrating just how little time it would take to turn "human genius and ingenuity, love and desire, compassion and intellect into ash."

On the eve of the 80th anniversary of the first atomic explosion in the New Mexico desert—followed three weeks later by the first and only wartime use of nuclear weapons by the United States against Japan, namely the civilian populations of Hiroshima and Nagasaki—this book lays bare the horrors of nuclear war.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Wait, has something changed in the speed an atomic war would take place in the last 40 years? When I was a teenager in the 80s I could be vaporized from one moment to the next.

We had fucking autobahns and bridges mined with tactical nukes so they could be blown up in order to stop a conventional army.

Maybe fatalism is what you get being a teenager in the 80s living right next to the Iron Curtain.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The premise is unrealistic - if there ever was a nuclear war, the first to strike would be the US or Israel, not muh bug bad Norf Kowea.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Woah thats crazy, the Zionist Occupation would never massacre mass amounts of civillians indiscriminately in horrific ways (or has explicitly threatened usage of nuclear weapons)

/s

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

for real. small country that stays in its small part of the world and doesnt really bother anyone? definitely the first to nuke! definitely not the globe spanning empire that has already used nukes at war.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

and doesnt really bother anyone?

Don't they threaten to fire missiles at America like, weekly?

And try and fail to do it once every six months or so, I feel like I've been hearing about failed North Korean missile launches or tests with some regularity since like 2000.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, they don't.

You should examine why you "feel" that they do, though.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

They do fire „at“ and actively endanger Japanese citizens. They’re also a dictatorial regime with many human rights violations. Making it out to be some small cute country just chilling is absurd. They have the capacity and will to kill millions.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

They do fire „at“ and actively endanger Japanese citizens

No they don't. Don't post disinformation.

They’re also a dictatorial regime with many human rights violations.

Ok, complete non-sequitur, don't do that.

Making it out to be some small cute country just chilling is absurd.

And that's a massive straw-man that nobody said. Don't do that either.

They have the capacity and will to kill millions.

And yet they haven't. Unlike the US. Sounds like you're projecting.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Here‘s the incident they were talking about. It wasn’t fired at Japan, but looking at the place it landed in, it had to have crossed either Japanese or Russian territory on its path, which is negligent at best or a direct provocation at worst.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

What do you mean "the incident"? They said that "there are regular occurrences of nk firing dangerously over Japan endangering citizens and violating air spaces."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

That is what he said, but this is the only instance of it actually happening. The missile tests that do regularly happen are into the Eastern Sea, which is also know as the Sea of Japan, which may cause his confusion

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly don’t care. Just wrote a whole paragraph, but the important part is, there are regular occurrences of air sirens going off, because nk is firing dangerously over Japan endangering citizens and violating air spaces. Idk if it’s still a regular occurrence, but I know this happened sometime around 20 to 24.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Honestly don’t care

Then don't comment.

there are regular occurrences of air sirens going off, because nk is firing dangerously over Japan endangering citizens and violating air spaces.

Source?

You've also Motte-and-Baillied from "they fire at Japan civilians" to "they violate Japanese airspace" (which is in turn a motte-and-bailly from "they regularly try to launch nukes at the US.")

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Look on ap news from 2022.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

So you don't have a source

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't mean to piss in the soup of anyone who just enjoys the topic, but I do want to question the idea that it's important to reflect on the potential for nuclear catastrophe. I think nuclear weapons are here whether we like them or not, and that the average person worrying about nuclear war is as unnecessary and self-destructive as worrying about solar flares or plane crashes. Is that incorrect? Is it possible to eradicate all nuclear weapons? Am I capable of influencing whether or not nukes exist? How might one go about disarming powers which do not want to be disarmed? How do we prevent future creation of nuclear bombs or the keeping of existing ones in secret?

[–] humanspiral 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Democracy means you have the illusion of mitigating warmongering, and right to object to your destruction.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

To be honest this is only phrasing from people that have never lived under totalitarianism. If you have and then you managed to move or overturn it, you count your lucky stars every day about the ways you can actually affect outcomes in your life.

Of course you are only one voice, but the fact that you’re allowed to organise groups to address grievances is a revolutionary idea that most people that have it barely appreciate it - they think it’s natural and self evident, in fact it isn’t for most of the world.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

I can theoretically vote to disarm my own country, but I cannot vote to disarm other countries.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

Well you see the problem is you're not voting hard enough, clearly if you just voted dem harder maybe they wouldn't be spineless liberals

/s

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Doomsday nowadays is an nuclear explosion 200km above a country, back to the 18 Century in milliseconds. Lights off, all electronic devices converted to paperweights, no water, no fuel, no transports, no communication....Mad Max.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

That happens in the book.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Well, at least Twitter would be gone forever.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've always wondered what would happen if someone nuked Antarctica.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Fucking finally. Let's do this.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If my city gets nuked, I hope it goes off right above my head. I don't want to live through a second that shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Her book is so good. Strongly recommend.