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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

.223: Proper American rifle round.

5.56: Communist European rifle round.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

5.56 puts out slightly higher pressures. I used to have a bolt action .223 rifle that wasn't rated for 5.56. I sold it to an old guy in the country who was going to use it to kill coyotes stalking his chickens and small livestock.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

cops: "9mm is too weak! we need something with 'stopping power!"

gun people: "ok here's 10mm"

cops: "too much recoil!"

gun people: "ok here's .40 s&w"

cops: "u no wat, we're just gonna stick with 9mm"

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Every US company I’ve (engineer) worked for has been a metric company

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I (machinist) have only seen a few large US firms or companies send me a metric print. Different worlds, I guess.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (4 children)

And the only time they use the proper date format is their national holiday.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you mean dd-mm-yyyy instead of mm-dd-yyyy, I’d agree it’s superior. That said, other countries have us both with their fully ISO compliant yyyy-mm-dd standard.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hey, we also measure our large soda bottles that way!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

And street drugs

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ignore all the rest of the US rounds like .30-06, .30-30, .357, etc.

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[–] MangioneDontMiss 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

whats fucking weird to me is that we use millimeters and inches on the same fucking rulers.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Took me a while to realize that Caliber is roughly inch/100. Once I did I no longer needed to memorize them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I don’t understand. A 5.56mm round has a .223 bullet. .223 is the caliber and is in inches already, no math required. .223 / 100 =0.00223 which isn’t particularly useful.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Their math was flawed, but I'm not really sure how to explain the math part better. I get what they were going for, though.

It's closer to decimal divisions of an inch, so a .223 caliber bullet would be a hair shy of a quarter of an inch (.25) wide.

Edit: just realized you had the second part of that already

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That still makes no sense. Is the commenter surprised to learn that a 0.223 inch caliber is approximately 0.223 inches? That a .45 inch caliber is about .45 inches? Yes, that's how units work.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

But you don't call it "point four five caliber" you call it "forty five caliber". Similar is 7.62 mm AKA "thirty caliber". It's reasonable that someone wouldn't know that it's literally just hundredths of inches.

Shotgun gauge is wonky, so it's not a given that the number would just be a diameter in units they are familiar with. "Grains" are also a meaningless unit to most people.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

What do you mean? its 7000 grains in a pound. 27ish grains to a dram, 16 drams to an ounce, and 16 ounces to a pound. Pretty straight forward.

Also dont confuse an ounce(oz) and a fluid ounce(fl oz). That's 8 fluid drams to a fl oz, 16 fl oz to a pint, 2 pints to a quart, and 4 quarts to a fucking gallon cause it makes sense. Obviously, 63 gallons to the hogshead.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Shotgun gauge is wonky, so it's not a given that the number would just be a diameter in units they are familiar with.

Yeah, it's not intuitive that bigger gauge numbers = narrower diameter unless you've specifically worked with wire or shotguns before.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

We all use metric. We need to just rip the bandaid off.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

they would freak out if they have to measure temperature in kelvins, even celcius freaks americans out.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Also wetsuits…? 🤷‍♀️

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Hey, that's a win. I'll take it.

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