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[–] [email protected] 111 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

We've stopped calling it the famine here and now it's "the great hunger".

Ireland was producing more than enough to feed itself but the British landlords were forcing the export of non-potatoes and leaving us to die.

The queen at the time politically shamed the Turks into reducing their aid to us because it was higher than hers.

What's up, Turkey? We haven't forgotten your generosity.

Massive, massive shout out to our Choctaw brothers and sisters in America who gave what they didn't have after the trail of tears.

For those not familiar, we have never, ever forgotten that one.

Sculpture in Cork called "kindred spirits":

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago

The vast majority of Brits still hate British landlords.

[–] [email protected] 109 points 1 week ago (3 children)

A large contributor to Irish suffering were the British corn laws, a tariff that kept the price of barley, wheat, and oats artificially high. So when potato crops failed, the poor Irish couldn't afford substitutes. Ironically, American maze was exempt from the corn laws, so much of that was imported to Ireland.

Tariffs: never any externalities or unintended consequences; you will certainly not regret imposing tariffs.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not to mention that the Irish people had to sell all of their produce for very little money to their English landlords, who would then graciously offer to sell it back for a lot more than any Irish farmer could afford.

And just in case you ask "why not cut out the middleman and survive penniless on your own produce?", remember how I said that the English were also their landlords?

Turns out that landlords were even MORE happy to throw poor people out for being unable to pay than they are nowadays and being homeless in mid 1800s Ireland wasn't very survivable.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is vitally important to understand that throughout the "potato famine" Ireland was a major exporter of food to the rest of the UK.

Irish farmers were growing all kinds of crops. Grains, carrots, cabbage, lettuce, etc, etc. All of these were sold to pay for the oppressive rents that they were forced to pay to English landlords who had stolen all of their land.

The potatoes the Irish grew were for subsistence, because all of the rest of their crops went to market. Even when the potato crops failed, there was more than enough food for everyone in Ireland, if the English would simply suspend rent collection for a short while, until the crop failures had passed.

Many motions to do so were put before parliament. All of them were rejected.

The Irish famine was not caused by a disease. It was caused by the intentional cruelty of the English.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago

Hats off to the historical accuracy of this comment chain. Not sure how many of you are Irish but honestly it's heartening. ❤️

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Aren't the Brits more viral historically? Go, inject themselves into another organism and force it to produce more brits.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They're more like a malignant bone cancer.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

So, the EU got rid of cancer? That sounds about right.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Wait the Brits? Not the English? Ireland is part of the British Isles, doesn't that make them Brits too?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

Don't start your car tomorrow

(I jest of course).

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

I see your argument, but the Irish will absolutely throw hands if you call them Brits. They thing the term should only apply to people on the isle of Britain, not the British isles as a whole.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

I wouldn't ask an Irishman that, lol.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

On a linguistic level yes. The ancient Greeks named the islands after the Prythonic tribes, who were active in Britannia and Hibernia (Ireland).

On a don’t-annoy-the-alarm-clock-aficionados level, nope. This guy isn’t with me. Never met them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

We’ll, they were Brits at the time, but I guess their time in the union was not entirely to their satisfaction.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ireland is not part of the British Isles

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