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Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 2 weeks ago (19 children)

Hey man, I downvoted but i wanted to tell you why. My family has multiple alcoholics. I’m not judging you at all, but i a wanted to encourage you to find other coping mechanism. Alcohol is very dangerous, especially when used that way. Be safe, bro.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I understand, more of an AUD dude and its welm-managed, especially since ive been low sugar

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago

No, but I don't drink strategically. If you need to have a hard conversation or do something difficult, you should probably have your whole brain in use.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, millions of people for thousands of years have done something like this. It's called liquid courage for a reason. I used to give myself exact small doses of alcohol to loosen up my introversion before social situations. If your job depends on it, it's basically a performance enhancer.

Not promoting alcoholism here, despite what I'm sure lots of comments will say. Personally, I barely drink at all anymore because it's gotten really hard on my body. Just giving a different viewpoint. There's so much addict pearl-clutching in here. Plenty of people can and do use drugs and alcohol responsibly. If you "don't need" them, great. If responsible doses help you live better, great.

[–] Coolbeanschilly 3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Given the fact that they said they need the equivalent of FOUR bottles of wine to have an uncomfortable conversation, it's a red flag.

You're right, many people can consume things in moderation, but when you see warning signs like that, warning them isn't a form of pearl clutching so much as "dude, be careful."

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, did they say they consumed a whole box of boxed wine? Or just that they bought one? Could have also been on of those cartons that is the equivalent of about 2 glasses.

[–] Coolbeanschilly 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Generally speaking, when I've seen someone speak about a box of wine, it's the 3L one, not the smaller ones.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

If they drank the whole damn thing that night, then agreed, that's a red flag. OP didn't say that though. Maybe they can clarify.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

Sure, but I was also an alcoholic. Very high functioning, but still at the end 100% dependant on it.

The slope is so treacherously flat, you don't feel yourself slipping. I still have no idea how I ended up where I did, or for that matter how I ended up actually managing to quit.

I'm sure some people can use liquid courage without it turning into depending on it to do the hard things, then more and more things turning hard and needing a boost to do it, or can wash away work with a drink at the end of the week, without having to wash it away at the end of every day, and then having a quick rinse-and-reset at lunch, and so on... But it's impossible to know which one you are until it's too late.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I mean, you could call it strategic, or you could call it relying on substances as a crutch to manage your emotions.

I'm not saying that's always bad, necessarily. There is the school of thought that it's just a tool, like in your edit. But, it's important to remember it can become a habit.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lots of people warning you about alcoholism. Idk. I drink coffee strategically every day, and that's a drug. But also yes, I sometimes drink alcohol strategically. If I know I'm going to hang out with my sister who I love but disagree with on many many things, i have a drink or two. I try to dull my brain just enough that I am too slow to get offended at every single thing (or just don't care to, maybe?) in the end, we have a great time, I don't get all debate-ey with her, and instead just appreciate the good things about her. We don't see each other that often so I genuinely don't see any danger from this coping mechanism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

A caffeine addiction and an alcohol addiction are two completely different beasts though.

[–] Coolbeanschilly 9 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

This is how you become an alcoholic.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

I've been doing "tipsy chore day" for a while. Do a chore > glass of wine > do another chore > glass of wine.... I may as well finish the bottle > do a chore > final glass.

Chores are less boring, and you push through them to get your next glass. Has to be wine though, beer I don't get a buzz going, and spirits have me incompetent.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Anxiety is necessary sometimes. It’s fine to be anxious and it’s ok to be uncomfortable. You are having trouble managing your anxiety seek a therapist. Alcohol will trick you into thinking it’s a solution. Be careful, this is very similar to how my alcoholism and my fathers started.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, I strategically drink every day

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not an alcoholic, I'm a strategical drinker!

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I had the opposite situation several times. Conversations that involved fair quantities of alcohol derailed gradually, and afterwards I realized everyone's attitude had shifted in a more aggressive direction, including my own. So this wouldn't be a useful strategy for myself 😊.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

fair enough

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Using alcohol as a method to resolve personal problems can be a very dark path. Please be careful.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

I have a drink before my DnD sessions as it loosens me up and brings me out of my shell a bit. I imagine that could be called strategic drinking.

As long as you're not relying on alcohol just to get through the day, and you can function well in your life without it, there's nothing wrong with having a drink before a tough conversation.

Humans have been using alcohol as a social lubricant for thousands of years. That doesn't make it safe, but it's also not a great evil, in moderation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Everyone high roading you here is probably on anti-anxiety meds lol

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

That’s a sign of unmanaged dependency.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, my strategy is I don't drink and in turn I don't get hangovers

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

PSA to the youngs who see Box of Wine and think QUANTITY.

Box of wine actually stays best longest because the tapped bag doesn't take in O2 and start to sour. So box wine is usually pretty par for paced domestic drinking and cooking.

I'm sure someone has smashed the box, but they also serve people who are more likely to leave the last glass in the bottle too long.

Bought Box does not mean Drank Box.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Oh absolutely. I don't drink much outside parties (less and less nowadays) but I like having a stiff drink sometimes before doing something laborious or something requiring a bit of creativity. Nothing like a glass of whisky while messing around with the homelab servers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

For conversations I need to have, I rehearse in my head and mutter quips to myself to prepare myself for all contingencies.

This isn't so I will say these words to the person, but more that I'm convincing myself and arming my mouth when my brain wanders off as it is wont to do.

On the actual day, I drink a soothing tea and don't say anything unless the uncomfortable topic is brought up. If people clock onto my calm confidence, they usually don't instigate.

I've learned from early on that people prey only on those they perceive weak, but to pre-emptively strike is to invite ruin. So I prepare and stay quiet.

Beer would ruin that planning as I am a lightweight

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Short answer... no. Long answer... Noooooooooooooooooooo

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

I would never do this, because alcohilism runs in my family, and I'd be afraid to become dependend. That said, I know not everyone has the same risk to become an alcoholic, so if it helps and you can manage, do what you have to, life is hard enough as it is sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Not anymore after reading up on how bad alcohol is for us.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Not exactly like that but I don't drink very often but decide to before like state of the unions now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

My baseline circadian rhythm doesn't let me get sleepy until the sun starts coming up. In a bygone era, I would've been the guy tending the fire and watching over the camp until the early birds got up. In the modern era, night shift jobs are generally terrible. I strategically drink to fall asleep at a somewhat reasonable hour, so I can participate in modern society.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, I barely if ever drink alcohol. I'm not social and hate talking to people or crowds, I'm also pretty ND so I can't fake or pretend I give a shit about what other people are talking.

Alcohol helps a lot, if I have to meet whoever and their friends and they're asking me about work or how I would design an app that does blah blah I definitely need to be like 4 beers in to tolerate that conversation.

That being said I don't drink for things like school presentations or other events that require me to speak, like conference stuff. I just bite the bullet and it sucks, but I'd rather be sober and speaking coherently than feeling like I am.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

I like to have a drink but hard NO to doing it before anything important. I strongly prefer to feel clear headed for those moments.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

I do, but the other way as I'm getting old and can't down them like I used to. Met up with a mate to watch the F1 in the pub garden on a sunny Sunday, just had a couple of halves as I still wanted to try a number of new drops

Though I completely understand using alcohol to loosen up a bit, for numerous social situations. Definitely used it more that way in my younger days, to varying degrees of success

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

These days i rarely drink but a glass of wine with some pasta now and again goes down a treat

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