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In the Abacus poll, 46 per cent of respondents said they would support Canada becoming a member state of the EU, and 44 per cent said the Canadian government should definitely or probably look into joining it.

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[โ€“] Sunshine 65 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I mean if Cyprus and French Guiana can join so can Canada if we can meet the requirements. Itโ€™s a political alliance of values.

[โ€“] [email protected] 33 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

But then we would share two borders with the USA :/

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

That would be the first step in claiming back what once was ours ;)

[โ€“] Sunshine 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

The European Union could help safeguard those borders.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

French Guiana is only part of the EU because it's part of France, and even then it needs plenty of exceptions to make it work.

Cyprus was already aligned with the rest of Europe in economic laws.

Canada would need to redo half of its laws to join the EU, and Canadian companies would either need to produce two versions of everything or drop the US market altogether.

It's more realistic to aim for a close bilateral treaty than for membership, at least for next few decades.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, but it's a nice dream.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, these opinion polls really should be more taken as a desire to move closer (as the article says). I doubt the people voting actually know everything that joining the EU would entail, but it's still valid as a general "getting closer to the EU".

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[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

How is Cyprus controversial as an EU member? Because it's far enough to technically be Asia? Still very much European values, language, history etc. It's also only a stone's throw away from the nearest Greek island

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
  • Tax heaven (together with Ireland)
  • Part of the island occupied by Turkiye
[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And Malta, Luxembourg, Monaco, Andorra, Jersey... Etc. Basically any small nation

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[โ€“] Sunshine 6 points 2 weeks ago

Some people claim that โ€œa country cannot join if theyโ€™re outside the continentโ€

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I mean french guiana is literally a part of france. Its an overseas territory so its handled as an island or whatever not a colony. The most disgusting thing isnt that canada is in north america but that the eu would need to border the usa...

[โ€“] Sunshine 6 points 2 weeks ago

I mean poor Norway, Finland, Poland and The Baltics already have to deal with Russia.

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[โ€“] Archangel1313 43 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I love these "nearly half" declarations of support the media likes to gin up.

So..."less than half", then?

[โ€“] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's more about the trend. Last year almost no one thought it would be a good idea. So the implications is "shortly more than half might want to join the EU" or "Canadians are approaching the majority threshold"

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[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's also a bit useless to just give the one number and not the complete results.

This could mean 46% in favor, 15% neutral / undecided, 39% against, which would put the overall sentiment in favor of joining, or it could be 46% in favor, 54% against, which is a completely different situation.


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Just re-read the article, I have missed the numbers, sorry.

So it's 46% pro, 29% against, which puts the sentiment clearly to pro....

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Well, you are not wrong. But if you think about it it's still a pretty significant percentage considering Canada is one ocean distant from Europe, and has always had historically relations, economically and politically with the USA, obviously given the fact they share their only border with them. So in my opinion the number gets more weight, maybe. Probably some years ago it was much lower, or they didnt asked themselves the question at all.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Not sure how that would work since they aren't on European continent, but then I remembered we have Australia in Eurovision so I'll allow it. Just because Canadians are cool.

[โ€“] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The EU is already in the Caribbean and South America, might as well be in north too.

[โ€“] JoeBigelow 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

"Its all Europe?"

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"Always has been"

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[โ€“] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I welcome the Canadians into the European Union!

Is what I would say, but I really, really, REALLY donโ€™t want a border with the US. Russia alone is bad enough.

[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

The US already has military installations all over Europe. It wouldn't change much.

[โ€“] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

I believe it will be a positive alliance for both Canada and the EU. Canadians are welcome!

[โ€“] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

As an American, I endorse the idea. It would make it harder for Canada to be attacked, or worse, destroyed by Dogey America. Plus, it would allow the Free States of America to have a potential ally or trading party, better means for non-coms to flee from the conflict, and so forth.

It also works out for Canada, since that means having stronger trade connections with Europe. Considering that Dogey America is going to be an annoying prick and no longer a viable partner, having a solid trade network would help keep Canada prosperous.

[โ€“] orbitz 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Okay not a direct comparison but if I was playing a Paradox grand strategy game and the neighbor country started getting all fascist / authoritarian, I would want to group with like minded nations for protection. Hey we're already in a defense treaty with them why not make it a more inclusive type agreement? Personally I always felt culturally closer to the UK (yes I know not there anymore) than the US and thought many of our policies mirrored the US due to location and held us back.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I hope they get to join. Meanwhile, here in the UK, we are further along the Trump path.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

....and the other half are Quebecois

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[โ€“] rbos 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Let's start with Schengen zone membership and see how we feel after that. The currency would be a hard sell.

[โ€“] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Maybe an EU adjacent status like Norway would be sufficient. But yeah, probably best to just wait and see. I'd appreciate closer cultural ties too. More sustainable basis for a long-term partnership than just business stuff.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The UK was previously a member of the EU without ever having adopted the Euro.

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

True, but all new members sign an agreement that they will eventually join the eurozone. It's not enforced and there is no pressure to do so, but on paper they agree to it.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

honestly anything but being close to the us. it's bad enough they share a border.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

As a EU/French I vehemently oppose that idea unless we get to see the Canadian mounted police to parade here on the Champs Elysรฉe, this next 14th July :p

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

Go for it Canada and the EU should send an invitation. Perhaps they should start with EEC membership and later receive full membership. MAGA would shit and f-them.

[โ€“] ILikeBoobies 9 points 2 weeks ago

Itโ€™s been a movement here for over a decade now, surprised support is so low

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Step 1: Be USAmerican, non rabid Trump sycophant/cult member variant.

Step 2: Attempt to gain legal residency in Canada

Step 3: ยฟ?ยฟ??ยฟยฟ??ยฟ?

Step 4: I am now European.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I would like the option. Being an American citizen is now like not unlike a soiled piece of toilet paper: Unpleasant and not worth keeping. After all, Project 2025's backers don't give a damn about citizenship or American society.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Ok here's the plan:

Move to Minnesota.

Canada joins the EU.

Minnesota joins Canada.

Probably not likely to happen or work, but uh... fucking who knows these days.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Full circle

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[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

I appreciate the thought and the vote of confidence. Unity against the US would be nice. But, I'm afraid of the US influence in Canada. It's bad enough in the EU, but Canada probably is worse.

My conditions in order of importance, if I had any power at all, would be (and maybe Canada already has these):

  • no "winner takes all" or first past the post anywhere - single transferable vote or ranked choice voting
  • separation of church and state
  • wealth tax aka "tax wealth, not work", it'll pay for a bunch of the below
  • free public education
  • universal healthcare without stupid deductibles
  • the ability to live without a car in any place with more than 5k people i.e public transport FTW, high speed trains, buses, metros and trams, fuck cars
  • opensource in all public services
  • no deals with the US defence industry (although the EU council just made idiotic concessions)
  • house the homeless
  • state funded TV

Those are off the top of my head. Given more time, I'd probably come up with more, but I think those are the basic things I'd care about.

Edit: Yes, I'm aware most EU members don't have this, but Canada could be a lighthouse, guiding the rest of the members. It would probably see a huge influx of Europeans if those things were to be implemented.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So most countries should be thrown out of the eu as we don't fulfill these?

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