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You say inflation makes numbers go up each year?
this post was submitted on 08 Jul 2025
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Weird that inflation only seems to really exist for the carceral state.
There needs to be some kind of immigration enforcement just to handle the processing of people as they complete the immigration process. This requires some level of funding, and due to inflation and growing populations it will always result in record breaking funding at some point.
Democrats were denouncing ICE in 2017-2020 because the administration was ordering ICE to pursue practices like stealing children. They are denouncing them now because ICE is kidnapping people off the street and when they show up for court hearings when they are complying with court orders.
This list implies that the Dems are wrong for ever funding ICE and that they are hypocrites for complaining when Republicans are in power. But it glosses over the nuance that ICE really is used far more maliciously when Trump is in power and that denouncing of the specific actions of ICE are completely valid because those are their jackboot thug years.
Dems are shitty on immigration because they are complicit with lowering immigration maximums and excluding too many people while not promoting reforms that improve how ICE behaves. But it isn't the same thing as supporting the ICEstappo when in office, because they dial it back to a shitty level instead of full on villain mode.
Absolutely. The solution is comprehensive immigration reform. Until Congress passes it, we will continue to deport people due to our overcomplicated and flawed system.
It’s also important to note that more immigrants cross the border under Democratic presidents, and most deportations under those presidents are people caught at the border, versus the rounding up and deporting of working, tax-paying immigrants who have been here for years.
Yes, which is why ICE and all immigration enforcement under Trump is many, many times worse than under the Dems and still would be even if the reforms were in place because Trump is ignoring the laws and court orders that should be preventing him from deporting people to 3rd party countries just like he ignored the orders against separating children from parents.
Even if the Dems were sugar and spice and everything nice we would still have some kind of immigration enforcement in place and it would have been twisted into to what it is now because conservatives don't care about following the laws they dislike.
True. It’s long overdue regardless. We are still using the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 (IRCA). Obama pushed for immigration reform, but all Congress was able to pass with a weak majority was DACA in 2012.
Republicans want a broken system so they have a scapegoat for elections.
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weird how you focus on Democrats when the Republicans are the problem here
So who's supposed to oppose the Republicans who we know are responsible for most bad things happening?
Because if the democrats aren't interested in opposing them we need another party that's willing to oppose Republicans.
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Weird how all these anti-Democrats think that the only competitive left party in the US failing will somehow lead to the Republicans relinquishing power instead of consolidating it.
Russia had two or three fair elections after the fall of the Soviet Union, until Putin came into power and now he “wins” every election with 98% of the vote.
But I’m sure if the Democratic Party disappeared tomorrow then somehow Republicans would just give up their power. Lol.
We are ready to support the Democratic party whenever they intend to use their power to enact any positive change.
We're still waiting.
I've been waiting my entire life.
The party whose Supreme Court justices were responsible for all gay rights advancements, always vote to protect abortion rights, passed Obamacare to helps millions of Americans out, vs. a Republican party that has done literally everything in their power to empower their largest donors, and more recently has existed for the sole purpose of enriching the Trump family?
If you can’t see the difference between the two then you’re either being willfully obtuse or you’re a subversive agent for the GOP. My money is on the latter honestly.
Any party that allows wealth inequality to grow is not interested in fixing problems, just masking the symptoms.
If you were in the trolley problem and the trolley was headed towards a million people, I can imagine you opting not to pull the lever to switch it to a single person because you won’t act unless there’s a perfect option with zero casualties.
The two options in this trolly problem are Republican and Democrat.
Switching the lever to the other option fails to change the course of the train.
He likes how the conductor refuses to use the brake.
You just took a clear question/point (1 or 1 million people) and fabricated it into an unrelated and incorrect equivalency (omg what if they’re like Republicans and Democrats???). Realizing now I’ve wasted my time talking to someone who is, respectfully, a joke.
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Democrats are in no way "left".
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No, the problem is ICE, an agency both parties nursed.
They're both problems, and fixing the Democrats is the solution to both problems. Democrats repeatedly embracing the status quo is what lets Republicans keep winning, and Republicans won't change as long as they're winning.
A good third of the country is dumber than rocks and closer to evil than any other plurality in recent history besides Nazi Germany and Zionists (they're literally the same ethnocultural group at large, lol). How is that supposed to be fixed by a Democrat winning anything?
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Between 2011 and 2015 the ICE budget stayed the same or fell in 2 years.
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Democrats enforced Obama era rules of 72 hour holding limitations for women and children, and followed a criminal-only persecution which actually deported more people than Trump despite the number of cages Trump filled. Thats what this is all about. Trump is filling cages for the private prison industry's profits.
If you don't want the DNC to compromise then elect more than 50 of them to the Senate, and a strong house majority.
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Average Lemmy user, "There is no difference between the politician on the left and the politician on the right."
Lebensraum, and the implied means to achieve it, was a policy goal of WW1 as it happens.
That's kind of the idea I was thinking of. Lemmy users would focus on the bad of Hindenburg and declare him identical to Hitler. Hindenburg wasn't a saint but it's wrong to say there's no difference between Hindenburg and Hitler.
How does this post say there is no difference?
Instead your comments tend to be similar to how republicans always claim "It is fine when my team does it"
Do you have anything better than using an ad hominem?
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.ml user specifically
This post is on .world so I'd expect the majority of upvotes are .world too.
No, it's from .ml. Check again
Could be, OP is posting from a .ml address though. My comment was referring to them
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Feel CLEAN! Vote GREEN! /s
No
why /s?
if you want anything to change, vote, if you don't agree with any candidate, vote third party
elections are usually very close, if a third party is polling at about a few percentage points, major parties will bend over backwards to get those votes.
that's how we got Brexit (a bad thing) but it was weaponised third parties.