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Honestly the lack of ad blockers in Vanadium pushes me towards Firefox even though the devs say that Firefox is far less secure. So many web sites are just hard to use on mobile without an ad blocker so I'm curious what the rest of you are doing.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago

I have the same reasons for using mull (Firefox fork). I love having an adblocker along side my VPN's ad block. I also hate the chromium UI/UX, mostly because the search bar is on the top of the screen.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I like Mull the best. It’s pretty much just Firefox+arkenfox for mobile

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Except for gecko mobile not having per-site process issolation (Fission) I get it though, its has good anti fingerprinting, isnt chromium, and has compatibility with Firefox addons (you can get around the mobile only requirement by importing a custom collection, which iirc requires Dev mode)

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Bromite before it died, RIP :( Vanadium now with regular dns adblocking where security matters, Fennec where it doesn't.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There is a fork of Bromite, called Cromite, if you're interested.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

This one looks cool, but I am so used to having a sync service that I can't enjoy it fully :/

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You could use DNS and stick with Vanadium. AdGuard, nextdns, decloudus, Mullvad.. all good for ad blocking and probably more effective as it’s system wide

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

DNS blocking is different than content blocking. A content blocker like ublock can block more than just domains by injecting scripts into DOM (iirc im not a webdev)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

This is what I ended up opting for and it works very well

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Mull with ublock origin, always on VPN to my house with pihole for DNS.

I use Firefox for the "installed" web pages for quick access to internal things like Sonarr since Mull would log me out fairly often.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Mull with Adblock plus, Ghostery and Decentral eyes. Btw. I hope they soon update their icon to be Material theme compatible.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Honest question: is using those 3 addons better than sticking to just uBlock Origin?

I have read multiple times that the best is to just uBlock Origin and nothing else, since other addons are redundant and together will make your fingerprint easier to recognize.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Honest answer, I don't know. I will for sure not install another extension. What I like from Ghostery is the "auto decline cookie banner" funktion.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

uBlock Origin also has this functionality in its "annoyances" list category

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I just tried it and it did not work for a website I often visit.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I flip between Mull and Cromite.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Prettt sure it's the updated Bromite fork

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Yes, it's the fork of Bromite that uazo is maintaining.

https://github.com/uazo/cromite

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Mull, Fennec on mobile and Librewolf on laptop

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Fennec, Firefox from the f-droid-store

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

You could just keep vanadium and change the DNS of your phone for mullvad DNS for exemple to block the ads in (nearly ) every app.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Mull with ubo

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

really want to like vanadium, but it's giving me a unique fingerprint... So I am currently using Brave

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Been using duck duck go or Firefox focus personally

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Stop using the DDG Browser.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Hardened Firefox-based browser like Mull or Klar.

[–] d3lta19 3 points 2 years ago

Mostly Mull. A little Firefox and a little Vanadium

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Iceraven from GitHub, it's fork of Firefox but more privacy + add-ons Ghostery & uBlock origin & Bitearden. I don't need more than one browser.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Vanadium and Adguard home

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Vanadium for when I need to log in and Cromite for daily browsing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Use to use forefox, switched to just Vanadium as per Graphenes guidelines

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I use Vanadium and sometimes DDG or Tor. Mulls a good, hardcore browser as well.

And for vanadium, I use an ad blocking DNS, which is https://dns.adguard.com/dns-query

Isn't perfect but it blocks some ads

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

i was using Mull for a while but currently trying Fennec. both are firefox forks on fdroid

[–] thayer 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I use Firefox for most trusted browsing, largely due to its bookmark sync and extension support. It has also been my desktop browser of choice for decades. I always browse in private mode on mobile, and with strict protection enabled (no 3PC), so essentially no cookie or data retention once the app is closed. FF sync for bookmarks only, no search suggestions, autocomplete, etc., except for search bookmarks. DDG as default engine.

Passwords are managed with KeePass autofill, and synced to many other devices via Syncthing.

I love that Vanadium is the default WebView browser though, due to its support for site isolation and other hardened features.

Fingerprinting is still virtually impossible to prevent until/unless the overall web browser model changes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I use Vanadium with a custom DNS in system settings - NextDNS. It doesn't get rid of every ad but it's pretty good and blocks nearly all of them. You can choose adblock filter lists as well with NextDNS.

[–] Shaul 1 points 2 years ago

Navi download manager that has a built-in web browser combined with AdAway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

NextDNS with Vanadium.

To me, being able to use Vanadium in webview is a huge benefit.

Using DNS to block ads is relatively simple these days.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Fennec, basically Firefox forked. uBlock Origin + ClearURLs. In uBlock Origins I have every single filter enabled except the language ones. Also dark Reader is nice and synced with my system theme, something that doesn't work in Mull because fingerprint resistance blocks that by design.

I can't do Mull for day-to-day stuff, too many things break for me. Web apps like my work stuff, financial stuff, medical stuff, all those heavily use JavaScript and aren't the best coded so they don't like Mull very well. Fennec with uBlock Origin "just works" and very rarely do I ever have to turn off uBlock, usually disabling cosmetic filter on it fixes all my problems.

Also if you run a Firefox variant, you can enable NoScript and enable "Temporarily set top-level sites to trusted" and it will enable a lot of js websites to work without tweaks while still offering very powerful protection.

If I website doesn't work, opening it I'm Vanadium is a nice way to check if the issue is Firefox or not.

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