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Follow instance rules, be decent human being...
There's a harsh reality of any service, regardless of type. If you aren't the one paying for it, you aren't the customer, you're the product. The lurkers, commenters, posters, and mods are all part of the product to be sold to the real customers, the advertisers.
This move is like the ranchers deciding that veal will sell for a higher price, so now we're all being shackled so that we stay tender.
This move is like the ranchers deciding that veal will sell for a higher price, so now we're all being shackled so that we stay tender.
I actually think this is far more absurd. The situation is more like the ranchers deciding to charge rent to the cows living on the farm. We're not just the product being sold to advertisers, we're also content creators - building their audience to sell to advertisers. And now if I want to access reddit through a third party, they want to charge about $30/year, plus a 30% markup for the app store cut. You know it's odd, everyone is treating this as though the app developer is being charged this insane amount, but obviously they aren't doing anything with the data commercially, they are simply conveying the information to us. We're ultimately the ones being asked to pay the same as a Curiosity Steam subscription - a service that actually costs money to run and license documentaries, not a fucking text based forum where users create or link out to all the content- just to access a free website in a different way.
I am aware of that as well as i am also aware of the fact that one does not have to stay anywhere. I was not trying to say anything except for that i don't like seeing me getting fucked over or others getting fucked over, especially when the people are the ones, working for it.
in conclusion, i know that i have to pick a poison, so i prefer to pick the one i get to know the ingredients in it
Hello, welcome, I joined a few days ago as well, because of the same reasons too. What a coincidence.
Not really I know, lot of us came here from reddit because we don't support it anymore. And that's to be expected with latest actions reddit took exposing their greed and need for control.
Anyway each day here I see more and more content, so it seems things are going good and I love seeing it grow. So guess who's going to stay here too. Cheers.
EDIT: Forgot to mention, this no karma currency thing is awesome.
Ah i welcome you just the same my guy. What can is say, let's keep pumping that sweet content here and enjoy our time. I've been sorting things out as of late so this is just the next step to getting to what the internet once was imo. I'm happy to see this website grow too and yea, about that karma, i never really gave much of a shit about it tbh, so works for me. Hope you'll have a pleasant night/day
Hi, i'm edd grubberman, and I came here when one of my anime subs went private. NGL I had no idea it was because WWF style royal rumble between the reddit admin vs users vs mods. kbin.social and lemmy reminds me a little of websites from back in the day. Constant 411, and 505 errors while some servers are trying to keep up. I wonder if the admin will demote the mods. I also wonder wth funny af high octane anime and popcorn movies to watch. and where the hell did I put my car keys?
The no karma thing is a great point and one I overlooked. I wonder how that difference will influence how people post and comment.
Yeah I can even understand the pressure/rush to monetize from the admin’s POV. But nothing justifies being dismissive of the mods/community that works for free to allow your business to exist, or the way they tried to accuse Apollo devs.
I was over Reddit when I saw the news from Christian (Apollo's dev), then Spez's AMA really cemented Reddit was a shit hole, then news came out that they were also laying off 90 staff members, and the final nail in the coffin for me was getting accosted by another user that I was "spreading misinformation and lying" about Reddit when I commented about supporting the black out.
The thing I hate about reddit is that your usage of the site is at the mercy of the admins. If one of them dislike you, you can get permanently banned and even ip banned. In Lemmy, unless you managed to piss off a lot of instance admins, you can't ever truely get banned. But if you do manage to piss of a lot of Lemmy Instance admins, then maybe there's a "you problem".
I mean, i generally don't see a problem with rules and moderator to make sure they won't be broken, but reddit sure was wild at times. I think, if you're just being yourself and use the social platform for something like, idk, being social, it won't come ti a ban.
tl:dr I agree with you on that point and i see the way lemmy handles this, as a good thing, as freedom of speech should be a given in social platforms
One of the other big problems is name squatting, a lot of the well named subs get traffic by default as a result of their names, not their quality, which makes them impossible to replace with better subs. And unfortunately, mods tends to get more power trippy as time goes on, which means that the quality of some of the subs has gone down significantly and there's not much you can do about it
I deleted my 13 year old account.
I just cannot support what Reddit is doing and the direction they are going.
I just completed my comment/post edit/deletion. 10+yrs removed without a trace (unless you count the wayback machine, archived dumps, etc).
Feels as good as I expected, but it was funny, the feeling of watching the edit, then deletion progress.
Long live Lemmy!
Like a new beginning, i hear ya. Nice to hear that you sacrificed a whole decade to make a point. Shows that you mean it and i welcome you to Lemmy.
Long live Lemmy!
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Do check back tomorrow or something, to ensure it actually is removed. Many people are seeing their comments/posts come back from the dead.
If anyone remembers the digg wave ,this feels very much like it in reverse. Where Digg got it so so wrong is they totally dismissed the cause of the issue and then assumed it would go away.Instead the active user base just left. I think this is happening now to reddit.
Yes absolutely. Digg actually had multiple waves to reddit. I left on the first one but most left on the second.
It really feels to me a similar effect is happening
It's the circle of life...
The only problem is that I was planning on using reddit to transition to one of Lemmy's instances or fediverse. For example, I'm having difficulty logging into kbin.social on mobile (but no problems on desktop). OR I can't seem to be able to log into beehaw. There were various people helping me with these issues on reddit. But I don't wanna log into reddit anymore after all the things the CEO has been saying.
The issues will be fixed soon. This is a huge unexpected wave and the developers weren't exactly planning on hundreds of thousands of people migrating to their beta software overnight. But more people means more developers able to contribute to code fixes, so just keep being patient and it'll all work out. There is a kbin app in the works currently so your issues with mobile won't be issues long.
Welp, I also just deleted my 9 year old account. Extracted what I could, checked some communities for the last time, deleted what I could using Power Delete Suite and Redact, and pulled the trigger. I have learned a lot there, found some interesting niche communities, and had interesting conversations, launched a lot, but also got angry at times at the stupidity of people. Bittersweet moment, but I can't continue supporting Reddit in any way. Fediverse, here I come!
Don't forget Reddit is probably one of the best ways to astroturf or push a sentiment.
I would be curious if they have a back door to corporations to allow them to pay reddit to cover up stories.
Thanks the black out !
Before you all leave Reddit, you should take your stuff with you, and then delete all posts and comments using one of the several ways to automate that.
Ideally turn them into gibberrish or some random phrase, but nothing with sense so they can't train ai with it
Ditto. Been 7 years for me. Still figuring out kbin and lemmy. but decentralized, open source and ad free is my speed ...
The rolling back and undeleting of comments, as well as the censorship of the feddiverse is the most egregious thing so far.
My principals align with this platform much more, and ultimately is a much more fulfilling social experience for me.
I don't miss reddit.
I'm in exactly the same boat. I love Reddit and I love the community. I'm a mod of a couple great small subs. But the site management has broken my trust. And that means it's time for me to 'grow up' and start putting serious thought into which networks I'm supporting with my participation. Decentralized is the future. 'Big Tech' platforms are the kiddy pool of the internet, it's time for us as a society to swim into the deep end and take back control of our content and consumption. It's good to be among friends :)
It is about time we take back OUR internet, as it once was OURS. I could not agree me on that part right there. Good having you put some thought into it and good having you here, so welcome to lemmy and have a pleasant stay. The future is Decentralized. The future is Open Source. The future is Ours.
It is about time we take back OUR internet, as it once was OURS.
Yes exactly!
I remember the days when 'online community' meant someone with a cable modem and a laptop would set up a 'server' with an IRC bot or a Shoutcast stream and people would gather on forums and the like. It wasn't as slick as the Facebooks and Reddits and Twitters and all that, and it took a >90 IQ to figure out how to make it work, but it was ours. There was no billionaire owner in California deciding what you could and couldn't do or say or post according to what his advertisers would tolerate, and no giant machine learning algorithm vacuuming up your every keystroke to show you more relevant ads.
Those were good days.
Make a few accounts, you'll need them.
Is there a reason to have multiple accounts?
That would be my question as well. Why is the need for more accounts?
You can't see comments or communities on defederated instances. NSFW content and piracy related stuff is why I do have more than 1 account.
Understandable, have a nice day
Better yet? Host your own instance. That way no-one can take your account down.
Me too! Here, here!
Agreed
I'm partially affected because I use desktop + mobile (on third party app), but I've decided just to stop using reddit entirely.
Its quieter here, but I imagine it'll pick up slowly. The slower pace also helps because I've been spending too much time on reddit.
Things are going quite smoothly here (except for picture upload but i heard that it already gets worked on) and the content is indeed growing every day. Maybe the perfect opportunity to correct some things or have a better start. I'd take it as such and i'm glad to hear that the convertion over to lemmy is helping you out. Social Media sure does a good job on sucking you in until way too much time is gone, but with less busy shit going on on the screen and the platform relying on real social interaction (you know exactly what i mean by that kek), one might be less forgetting of touching some grass. Either way, glad to have you here and i hope it goes better for you as time continues. We live in times that are way too fast paced, to the point where we forget to just exist from time to time. I wish you luck with maintaining that part of life that you regained through this and a pleasant stay.
It felt really weird to leave. I still have yet to delete my account but I am still getting used to the interface here. Once the learning curve is over, I plan to go back and delete.