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Because it’s looking more and more like Belichick was the perfect head coach for someone who is wired like Tom Brady was but he’s not a perfect head coach in general.

Bill himself is fruitless without Brady...

Tom Brady isn't on their teams

He’s clearly soaked up all the wins

When you're really good at something, you make it look super easy. So easy that others think they can do it too. Until it's all on them, and then its not so easy anymore.

Authoritarianism does not produce capable leiutenants who can easily point out the flaws in the leader. That way they can never replace the leader or challenge his authority. What it does produce is people who can yell the same message. Patriots Way mantra BS. But the Patriot way actually included something special that it's immitations do not, Tom Brady. Im not trying to denigrate anybody by pointing this out. But having the game's greatest QB ever will make those associated with his presence seem better than they were capable of becoming on their own. And other teams would be foolish to not try to see if there is something to the coaches But what we keep finding out, over and over again, is that the irreplacable ingredient is and always has been Brady, not the coaching side

That question is awfully generous to those failed coaches, and simultaneously really creepy

Cuz no one else got carried by his golden boy.

Because teams hire these guys expecting results in 2 years when they are trying to build a system like the Patriots/Steelers/Packers. They sign a bunch of vets because they don't want rookies playing in year 1 and want to develop the "next man up" system when they can't or won't resign players which takes a long time to have that system in place and working.

Because the secret sauce was always Tom Brady

because he rode bradys coattail for 20 yrs and hes not a good teacher

Only like 20% of all NFL coaches have winning career records

Because the Bill Belichick coaching tree requires being watered by the Tom Brady awesome quarterbacking irrigation system.

Like literally he has a combined losing record in the seasons in which Tom Brady was not his starting quarterback. He's not that great of a coach. His brilliance is entirely overrated. He got lucky enough to have a stable starting quarterback for a long time during that quarterback's Hall of Fame prime. That's it.

Everyone who's always fellating this guy isn't paying attention to the stats.

Maybe the bad fruit aren’t as good at cheating.

Because his tree produces nothing but nuts.

Cause it was tawmi's magic all along

Turns out that when you have Tom Brady as your QB, he makes the coaching staff look better than they actually are.

Who woulda thunk it?

Because there is only 1 Tom Brady

I think it’s pretty simple. Guys learn under Belichick and try to do the same thing when they’re on their own, but the players don’t respect them because they haven’t won anything.

The article basically just speculates why his tree has been poor, but it brings up what should be the obvious answer.

Belichick is perhaps the best game time adjuster and improviser the league will ever see. He sees what a team can do and takes it away.

He is also the gm and has final say over everything. I'd bet most of his former coaches were never given that power, and the ones that were had no clue how to use it ( BoB )

The people yelling " Brady " are just silly. Plenty of coordinators have coached HoF players on teams and went on to be a head coach and do fine despite not having a " Brady. "

Because the "Patriot Way" is about doing your job. So these guys have no clue how to do the other aspects of a HC job.

He's never been a good coach without Brady.

That's why.

It’s not like his goal was to reach them how to be a head coach.

You can be good at your role without being fit to be a head coach. Sure, a lot of transferable skills between an OC or DC and a head coach. Some roles held by an OC in one team will be done by a head coach at another.

But just because they worked under Bill Belichick does not mean they should be a good head coach. If anything, from what we know about Bill Belichick, it might make more sense for them to not be. Regardless, I don’t get the point of this take other than it being a fun fAct

Bill looks for competent and loyal followers who will implement and maintain his way of doing things. Competent and loyal followers are rarely capable leaders.

There’s also the fact that the skills required to be a good coordinator are entirely different from those needed to be a good head coach, but that’s a more general football issue and not at all specific to Bill.

Pretty much this.

The Peter Principle states that, if you perform well in your job, you will likely be promoted to the next level of your organization's hierarchy. You will continue to rise up the ladder until you reach the point where you can no longer perform well.

I think it's for a few reasons, mostly that dudes try to implement the Belicheat way in other orgs but don't have the track record or fortitude to do it. Also, I think Belicheat and Brady made a lot of folks look good during the dynasty that really weren't that special 🤷🏾‍♂️

For the offensive coaches it’s becuase they didn’t have Brady. This ain’t a “Brady madw bill Belichick” or vice versa argument, but there’s very rarely been a great coach that didn’t have a franchise QB and franchise QBs don’t grow on trees. For the defensive coaches, it’s because Bill runs almost everything with the defense. Brady and Bill (the coach and the GM) WERE “The patriot way”. The other coaches played their parts and contributed for sure, but when you go on your own and don’t have the greatest QB ever, and you no longer work under the best coach of all time, stuff gets tough.

People being a leader doesn't mean they're also a teacher. There's often overlap but not for everyone. I'm sure a lot of people under him more or less skated by on his direction of things and didn't really glean much of it, which you could say might be a bad quality of BB but what the fuck does he care if the team is winning rings?

Belichick is an awful coach for the offensive side of the ball. Look at his track record of WRs he’s drafted and brought in. They’ve all been trash. If it wasn’t for Brady he would’ve been fried and working as a DC the last 15 years.

Because the Patriot Way only works when the coach actually commands respect. Josh McDaniels and Matt Patricia in particular are both dipshits. Players don't respect them and they're too arrogant and short-sighted to even notice it (it's absolutely laughable that the players in Vegas had to basically hold an intervention for McDaniels about his behavior and that was ultimately what cost him his job). Whatever Belichick's flaws are he's won 5 SBs in NE. He commands respect for entirely that reason.

My guess…he’s a control freak that doesn’t let guys really run with their plans/creativity.

Add to the fact that OCs had Tom Fucking Brady for years to make their resumes really shine. Brady was probably running that offense more than most of the OCs were.

What is this push to discredit Bill belichick this week? Who did he piss off?

Because they don’t have TB12. Look at Bill now without him.

The stronger you are, the weaker the rest of your team is.

While y'all fight among yourselves Brady is on his yacht drinking wine, banging chicks and enjoying how every Patriots loss validates his career

Cuz Belichick isn’t good without Brady duh

Cause he isn’t good

Because no one is Bill Belichick, no one is Brady, and the Pats org was bigger that any one man towards the end. It was an institution

Because he is way overrated because he had Brady.

Belichick has a hard ass coaching style. Players hate it, but will deal with it when the coach has earned their respect. You do it his way, and you get results.

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His system also looks for very specific traits in its players. Stars on the Patriots tend to not play well on other teams.

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Now coaches under Belichik learn his system, and his coaching style. They try to bring the Patriot way elsewhere. The roster isn't built for it, and the players are not happy.

Because Bill Belichick is an over-rated HC who has consistently whiffed on draft picks and has only been successful with TB under center. He's a phenomenal defensive guru but he wouldn't have won a superbowl at all if he hadn't hit the QB lottery with TB12.

Cuz he’s not a great coach, he’s average. His record without Brady is sub .500. It’s somewhere around 80-90.

Because it’s not a tree, it’s a cactus