Nevar

You're right, I thought this was the other Document Foundation article referenced on this post. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26054160

Hackernews had a good discussion about this. Libreoffice trying to shame people into buying their product instead of making it easier to purchase is the problem and they're looking for excuses for they're staff not having the skillset.

Collabora for example won't put pricing on their website or allow you to register without talking to their sales staff. Their excuse was that it would be too complicated to implement an online billing system. That doesn't really hold water when there are one person shops selling saas subscriptions and Collabora has 100+ staff.

I'm not optimistic about the future of LO. I started using onlyoffice (GPL) instead.

You're delusional if you think it will ever be used as a normal suite. It's dying of bit rot. Recommend reading their Dev mailing list, it's just about the workarounds they try to make work so they can run builds. They're building updates on popsicle sticks.

On top of that we now have onlyoffice, OX, LO, and other open source office suites that can do more than AOO. I only see your support of AOO as serving to hurt the reputation of the free software community, though I suppose your actions in themselves proves the critics right that open source community software can be inherently risky because of irresponsible actors such as yourself.

In other words, you're selfish because you're OK with old people and the uninformed using shitty software so you can feel a personal moral victory based on a software license. You know Lemmy is GPL right? Why are you posting on here if you dislike copyleft so much that you'll waste your time supporting a project that should have been dead years ago and is literally running on the spite of a few people with inflated egos?

Right, fair point yours is more accurate.

Nextcloud has this really lazy business model. Essentially they launch a skeleton of a feature and then hope the community will do the development for them. There's so many unmaintained features that it's makes the service quite unreliable beyond file sharing.

Started using OnlyOffice instead because it's also Open Source (GPL) and it has a better mobile/online app. Congrats on the new release though!

Mullvad

I donate every year!

No, there's 0% chance. Look at their Dev mailing list, they can't even build the software on modern Linux systems they need to make workarounds to use outdated versions of Java. It's quite embarrassing.

I get the sentiment but I don't think you know how much of a zombie project Apache OpenOffice is. The only reason they release a minor update every year is because Apache Foundation rules require it to be considered an active project. Apache OpenOffice still can't support .docx files even. It's actually incredibly irresponsible for them to even to pretend to be active because there are ongoing security flaws that they can't patch because they lack resources on their dated code. On top of that, the reason no one contributes to Apache Open Office is because it's licensed with the apache license! It's a permissive license meaning there's no incentive for any organization to contribute back to the project. OX-suite, and Libreoffice both picked off what was useable and have left the project to rot. It's essentially being run by some die hards who would rather expose boomers to security flaws and shitty outdated software tarnishing Open Source reputation rather than admit defeat and fold into Libreoffice.

It's worth noting that behind the scenes Libreoffice has been going through a bit of an identity and business model crisis. Their board lists have all the issues being discussed. They're being crushed under the weight of their governance structure. OnlyOffice also doesn't have a sustainable business model ATM except to expand as much as possible. I believe they're keeping the mobile licenses proprietary in case that's their only revenue model in the future.