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[โ€“] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

"Persistently low productivity" sounds a lot like a euphemism for "workers are lazy" but when the owning class want an ever increasing portion of the surplus value of labour, it shouldn't come as a surprise when nobody wants to perform said labour.

[โ€“] sapetoku 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They could try paying people decent wages, which have been stagnating for 35 years. Maybe then they'll be more motivated to be more productive.

[โ€“] EhForumUser 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

which have been stagnating for 35 years.

In fairness, incomes have been stagnant since the dawn of time. Wages only saw a period of growth because wages were only invented a couple of hundred years ago. Selling time is a product of industrialization. Before that, people only sold things. Now that the vast majority of the population only sells their time, there is nowhere left for wages to go.

During the transition, if 90% of your income is from selling things and 10% selling your time the first year, 50% selling things and 50% selling your time the next year, and 100% selling your time in the third year โ€“ there's your wage growth. 900% growth in just three years! How wonderful! Except your income didn't change, so...

[โ€“] Rodeo 3 points 2 years ago

Such worthless pedantry.

[โ€“] SymbolicLink 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Wealth gap gets bigger and bigger, workers feel less and less secure in their jobs and lives, and companies try to blame the people who are making them rich.

Even worse, they inspire infighting between the working and "middle" class. A person making $100K a year is a lot closer to someone making $45K a year than the executives making many millions a year.

[โ€“] EhForumUser 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

A person making $100K a year is a lot closer to someone making $45K a year than the executives making many millions a year.

Not really, because someone making $100k per year has $55k each year to invest in capital. And capital compounds. 20 years later that person will be making millions per year too, while the person making $45k is forever stuck there with no opportunity for escape.

Like you pointed out yourself, it is the wealth gap, not the income gap, that is pertinent.

[โ€“] SymbolicLink 2 points 2 years ago

I can agree with that overall.

But in this specific case (the link in OP), the discussion is centred around employee/employer relations. In that context itโ€™s employee compensation that seems more relevant to the discussion.

Employers have control over how much they pay people, so if they are complaining about โ€œlazy peopleโ€, it feels fair to point out lowered compensation and benefits year over year if you factor in inflation.

[โ€“] Szymon 4 points 2 years ago

Time to make the rich afraid