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[–] [email protected] 198 points 1 month ago (9 children)

I'm glad you linked the Snopes article - important context is that Buffett said this was a problem. The image and quote make it sound like he's gloating.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 month ago (2 children)

hes one of the few who understands whats going on is ultimately bad even for his class. that he and other of the super rich would be better off with less wealth they can't spend in a better functioning society.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Things are only so good for the ruling class because all of the progress made for the regular man.

There is a reason why Russian oligarchs have/want things all over the world, cause Russia isn't so great by itself.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I think many of them would rather be perceived as powerful in a dystopian shithole world than nondescript in an ideological utopian world though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

you see if with the us too were wealthy people rather spend a lot of time in more funtional european cities.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago

Yeah Bill Gates says shit. And his wealth now is greater than when he pledged to give it all away. And even when he "gives it away" he just creates foundations that he controls.

Bill Gates fought to keep intellectual property laws around vaccines during COVID-19. He's no better than any other billionaire, and deserves not to have 62% of his wealth taken away but 99.9% or even 99.999%.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)

important context is that Buffett said this was a problem

Yet he still insists on remaining a hectobillionaire, profiting obscenely off of the very system that incentivizes the war.

Until that changes, he deserves as much credit as Shell does for pretending to want to decrease emissions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Exactly. "It's a shame the poors aren't winning the fight to take my wealth. Oh well..."

Sweet words are free, he's choosing to stay rich.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Dunno, that's like saying every gun owner is a sandy hook shooter. There's plenty of problems that need solving, you take them in order of prioritization. Equating them all is stupid. If I've got enough hammer and nails to fix one thing, I'm going to fix the biggest problem I can.

To act without prioritization is akin to using your one hose to water the plants instead of put out your house fire.

You solve enough high priority problems and you'll be surprised how many smaller issues resolve themselves as a matter of course.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Dunno, that's like saying every gun owner is a sandy hook shooter

No. That's ridiculous. He's the 5th or so richest person in the entire world. He's also most likely the richest person in the world whose fortune is based almost exclusively on the stock market.

To pretend that he's only a small part of the problem is profoundly ignorant at best, and deliberate disinformation at worst.

There's plenty of problems that need solving, you take them in order of prioritization

And HE'S one of the biggest one. Yes, him personally!

Equating them all is stupid.

As is pretending that a member of a minority of 5 people is equivalent to a plurality of perhaps a hundred million people or more.

If I've got enough hammer and nails to fix one thing, I'm going to fix the biggest problem I can.

You need to get more nails and get to him perhaps not first, but EARLY.

To act without prioritization

Again with the absurd insistence that there's nothing special about his unfathomably vast dragon's hoard and how he achieves and maintains it.

You seem to have ABSOLUTELY no clue how rich he is or how much he contributes to the financial system being deliberately skewed in favor of himself, people like him, and hedge funds like his.

You solve enough high priority problems

Such as Warren fucking Buffet!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So you are saying Warren Buffet is of the same threat level as Musk, Bezos, and Zuckerberg? If so, substantiate the claim. You said I have no clue, so tell me, what DIRECT actions and/or consequences has Buffet precipitated that puts him on their level? Don't speak in vague generalities. I can point to specific things like Facebook, Twitter, and Amazon where those guys are very actively using with extreme, direct, and negative impacts on society. Buffet basically sits at a desk reading news and buys and sells stocks based on what he thinks. The other three are looking for active policy level control and manipulation of public discourse.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago

Further, in conversation it came up that Mr. Buffett doesn't use any tax planning at all. He just pays as the Internal Revenue Code requires. "How can this be fair?" he asked of how little he pays relative to his employees. "How can this be right?"

Even though I agreed with him, I warned that whenever someone tried to raise the issue, he or she was accused of fomenting class warfare.

"There's class warfare, all right," Mr. Buffett said, "but it's my class, the rich class, that's making war, and we're winning."

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The image and quote make it sound like he's gloating.

Kinda, but only if you aren't thinking critically. Otherwise, you'd realize that nobody who didn't understand it to be a problem would phrase it like that, even to gloat.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Yes. This is not the phrasing of someone who's proud of it

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Buffet would definitely be waaaaaay down on the list of evil billionaires. In fact you might be able to dig up enough to make an argument that he isn't evil. Maybe.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He wants us to think that. He disowned one of his granddaughters for having the temerity to appear in a documentary called "The 1%" that one of the Johnson & Johnson kids made a few years back. He was gloating, and then realized he might need to protect himself from the many people he is screwing over.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

yeah imagine trying to snopes us without even reading the snopes

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's not now I interpreted it.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If he is not cold, hungry, tired, alone, homeless, or dying of a curable disease then he is fucking gloating.