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Nah, she would have just continued to do it quietly, just like Biden did. You people are fucking monsters man. Absolutely no sympathy for the Palestinian people.
Ask a Palestinian how they feel about your sympathy
None of these people bother to talk to Palestinians. They don't have to. They know what the simple little people over there need.
Look below your comment and see what a Palestinian thinks. And then kindly shut the fuck up with your false sense of superiority.
You mean what one single Palestinian, if they are in fact Palestinian, thinks.
As far as a false sense of superiority, I have no sense of superiority at all. There is no doubt in my mind that I am the most inferior person you have ever talked to.
Ive done protests with lots of Palestinian Canadians, and I know exactly what they think. YOURE the one being presumptuous here, and even in this thread you’re trying to discounting what an actual Palestinian is saying to you. You’re fucking delusional man.
Just because I'm far inferior to you doesn't make it okay to insult me. Especially when it's an insult about something that isn't true and there are far more actual terrible things you could insult me over.
I mean if you're determined to insult me, at least do it over something I deserve.
I can help you out, if you'd like.
You do know that we also have internet and stuff right? None of us congratulates you for voting the Democrats. You people are sick for using us to bully people who didn’t vote for your party.
The genocide unfolded under the Biden administration and the ethnic cleansing and apartheid already happened under Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton and whoever was before that. To us you are all the same. Trump is a horrible person and he's saying the quiet part out loud, but that doesn’t make all the other politicians any better.
Sorry about all these people man. And I am so fucking sorry about what’s happening in your country. Been protesting it for 15 or so years now in Canada and it seems to have done fuck all. And you can’t even talk to liberals about it because they’ve gone totally mask off about caring about you guys. I don’t know what to say man.
Thanks for your kind words. It’s also shocking to me to see, but here we are. For now, the situation remains dire for us but the public opinion has changed in a way that I have never considered possible. Your protests may not have stopped the genocide, but there’s a whole new generation of people who are pro-Palestine now, all around the world. And to me that means a lot, even the people in Gaza have seen the student protests, it gives everyone hope.
I just really hope that we’ll have enough time left to change things. And from the protests myself I became more concerned with other issues as well, and I hope to spread that in my community.
Well thanks man. I’m not gonna stop trying. Don’t give up hope.
Yup, all the bad shit was happening no matter who got in. So you chose between keeping the US running and having a chance for change or installing the 4th Reich and you chose the latter.
I am not American and I don’t live in the US. I am Palestinian so I chose nothing. I just had the questionable luck to be born in a place where Zionists wanted to build a colony.
Poster said ask a Palestinian and here I am. You chose what you believed was right for you. But don’t use me to justify that.
Ask a Palestinian in Gaza how they feel about Biden providing "Israel" enough explosives to kill a million people.
And not murdering our country and doing permanent long term damage...I'll take the trade and hope people can work against it. Noone is going against it now. Morons.
Nobody was going against it before. What don’t you guys understand about this?
It wasn't an issue at the top of the list of concerns. There were more important things. Single-issue bullshit.
That single issue is genocide you nazi fuck.
Your short-sighted crusade enabled the next actual Nazis and have them a superpower to enact their evil with. Ironic. Great work you Nazi fuck.
Im going to keep pressuring governments and protesting wherever I can. What are you gonna do?
Suffer the world your ignorance permitted.
Maybe go out and actually do something to try and make the world a better place.
And by the way, you fucking clown, I’m not American. I had no vote in your stupid clown show election.
Didnt say you were, learn to read.
What specifically have you done to help Palestinians other than not vote for certain people and berate people on the internet?
"Vote for candidate A who supports genocide."
"Vote for candidate B who supports genocide."
"Don't vote and be loud about it so that in the next election, the losing party is hopefully forced to have a candidate that doesn't support genocide to get your vote."
Which one of those 3 has at least a theoretical chance of helping (even if it may be too late by then)?
I am not saying it was worth it, considering how much worse Trump is on most other issues. It probably wasn't. But if Palestine is the only issue you care about, it makes sense to not vote.
So the answer is nothing. You've done nothing.
Not one phone call, not one form e-mail, let alone actually go somewhere.
How many Palestinians have you even talked to about their needs and desires?
I’ve contacted MLA’s and MP’s about it for every single federal and provincial election for the last 15 years as well and going to protests regularly to stop this shit. It doesn’t work because liberals won’t also pressure politicians and instead would call out leftists for not supporting the right genocide candidate.
Got it, everyone give up and don't push politicians to do the right thing because it doesn't work.
Not at all what I said but go off.
You literally said it doesn't work. You used those three specific words in that order.
It only isn’t working because of people like you. You are enabling genocide. This is my entire point dude. Are you being intentionally obtuse? Because it’s exhausting.
It isn't working because I do the exact same thing you stopped doing because it wasn't working?
That makes zero sense.
I didn’t stop doing anything, what are you even talking about man?
So you do it even though it doesn't work and it doesn't work because I do the same thing. I see.
You are making absolutely no sense. Just shut up and take the L man.
I'm making no sense?
You're the one who told me that me contacting politicians every week, which is something I very clearly said I do, is the reason why contacting politicians every week doesn't work. But also that you do it even though it doesn't work.
So I'm pretty sure I'm not the one making no sense and I'm sorry my spending hours every week contacting politicians to try to stop this genocide has ruined it for you somehow. I think I'll keep doing it anyway... out of spite, I guess?
Ah right, because US politicians care so much about calls and e-mails from Europeans who can't vote for them.
Plenty of European politicians support this war too. How many of them did you contact?
And you didn't answer my question about Palestinians. How many have you talked to about their needs and desires?
Oh, right, I forgot I should have checked first if they wanted a bomb dropped on their head or literally anything else.
Thankfully in Europe, we have more choices than two genocidal maniacs, so I could just vote for ones that don't support genocide.
Not that it changes much, since US is the only country actually sending significant material support to Israel and diplomatically shields them from consequences.
Got it. You know what is best for the little Palestinians and you don't have to do any hard work, just vote.
Also, this is just a lie:
I mean let's just start with Germany... https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/scholz-says-germany-will-supply-israel-with-weapons-defend-itself-2024-10-17/
Yeah, it's almost as if people claiming they vote or not vote as something that counts as effort and helping a situation is some virtue signalling bullshit. Congratulations on missing the entire fucking point.
And yes, I do go out of my way to talk to Palestinians. It really isn't hard to do. You just apparently think you know better than them what their needs and desires are, so you don't bother.
Anything but make the slightest bit of effort, apparently.
You are the only one missing the point.
But continue, tell us what you did (on the advice from the Palestinians) that made anywhere near the difference voting can.
Do tell me the point.
I vote and do other things. I also care about people in dire situations enough to talk and listen to them rather than think I know what's best for them.
You only vote and you seem to think you know what's best for them. That's the difference between us.
Yes, the mysterious other things.
The point is, who did you vote for if you say it helped Palestinians? Because the only option that has even a miniscule chance to help is not voting.
But I am guessing that is not what you did. You voted for the party you liked and then pretended listening to Palestinians and making effort with negligible or nonexistent results was helping.
My voting is not what helped Palestinians because who I voted for had nothing to do with them.
You literally said you helped things by voting. Make up your mind.
Do you not live in the US? Because not living in the US is the only way your voting could have no effect on Palestine.
I am tired of you constantly changing the subject, so I'm just going to end this.
And for what it's worth, I'm a dual national.
Ah yes, so after you enter conversation about politics and voting, try to change the subject to other mysterious things you did to help, you get tired of people bringing back the original topic.
10/10 discussion /s