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Democratic lawmakers rushed to defend Volodymyr Zelenskyy after the Ukrainian leader was publicly berated by Donald Trump in a disastrous Oval Office meeting.

The US president accused Zelenskyy of “gambling with world war three” while his vice-president, JD Vance, called the Ukrainian leader “disrespectful”, before cutting short talks aimed at kicking off the process of ending Kyiv’s three-year war with Russia.

Zelenskyy abruptly left the White House soon after without signing a rare critical minerals deal with the US that Trump has said is the first step toward a ceasefire agreement that he is seeking to broker between Russia and Ukraine.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

The idea that Trump is a Russian agent, or that Putin has kompromat on him and so he's dancing to Putin's strings is just ridiculous. It's not impossible, but it's so incredibly unlikely.

Having said that, this is exactly how Putin would want Trump to act if he were a Russian agent. It's also hard to believe that any US president would be this pro-Russia if the Russians didn't have blackmail material on him.

If Trump pushed any harder for pro-Russian / anti-American policies there's a chance the GOP might actually grow a spine and stop him. He has a slim majority in the senate, and he's already doing things that are causing GOP senators to vote against him. If he were a Russian agent his handlers wouldn't want him to lose control over the GOP, because then he'd no longer be useful to them.

So, here we are in a situation where either the US president is a Russian asset, or he's not but might as well be.

All the spy thrillers of the cold war prepared me for a world where politicians were brainwashed and blackmailed. What they didn't prepare me for was a world where these politicians were enthusiastically supported by their parties despite there clearly being something wrong with their decisions.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 hours ago

Why is it unlikely that he’s a Russian agent?

This started in the 90s when Trump lost all of his inherited money, had half a billion dollars in debt and stayed afloat with Russian money.

Russia has, demonstrably, influenced the 2016 elections in his favor. If he wasn’t indebted until 2016, he sure was after.

His „business“ ties to Russia are so numerous, there’s a separate Wikipedia page just on that topic.

[–] thatsnothowyoudoit 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I agree. Trump is stupid and easily manipulated. He doesn’t need to be compromised in the way people think. He’s a rich kid with a chip on his shoulder trying to impress Daddy types while stuck in the mindset he’s the most (insert some positive trumpism here) - aka Narcissist.

Very easily manipulated when you know what makes him tick.

There’s a line from the Lioness tv series (S01E06) that rings so true about Trump (but also many modern presidents):

Do you know who's in this meeting?

Don't you?

I knew who was in the debrief was at Langley.

Well, it won't be the President.

Wouldn't be the President anyway. You don't plan bus routes with the bus driver. You just tell him where to drive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 33 minutes ago

Great point about manipulation. Vance triggered him, and while narcissistic and idiotic, Trump was still normal Trump before that. After the whole "thank you" bit, he went off and all he wanted was for Zelenskyy to take his beating and kiss the ring.