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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

People who support this aren't American anyway. Real Americans believe in human rights

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Have you read black history in the US? :)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or read about native Americans? I say read because they are almost extinct

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Or, like, any pre-2008 American history lmao

Recognizing human rights was an anomaly over the last few years, not the norm

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

You're not wrong, but I also don't think the US is unique in that regard. There's been a lot of bullshit going on, even in countries that you would never imagine things like that happening in.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

In most decent states there's been a ton of progress. I never claimed we were always perfect. No country has been.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

No I know. I would say all countries are pretty fucked up actually. Because human leaders are greedy and awful human beings in most cases.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago

You say "decent states" as if you think rural east Oregon is better than Atlanta in that regard, just because Oregon is blue and Georgia is red.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The US were built on genocide and fueled by slavery.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most countries were. You can't work backwards. You have to work forward towards the future

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

You have barely worked forward, since the US have been sabotaging the global South's political self-determination and pillaging its resources.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Who upvotes this no true Scotsman bullshit?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Your right. It's bigger than America. No real human would support something like this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm sorry, but when you actively support bullshit laws like this that dehumanize people, you don't get to call yourself an American. Simple as that

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

This country was founded on dehumanizing people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

To be clear, I am not defending them. I am just pointing out bad logic because it leads to bad beliefs and opinions.

Unfortunately, these people are Americans, and there's a whole bunch of them. There is no value whatsoever in trying to argue otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

All I'm trying to say is that fascism is decidedly un-American

Unfortunately that seems to be changing. It's almost as if this country learned nothing 80 years ago

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yeah I dunno about all that... Hitler famously got most of his ideas from America. He modeled a lot of Nazi Germany after Jim Crow, and all the eugenics stuff originated in the US and was big in the academic community prior to WW2.

We even had a massive conspiracy by corporations to take down FDR and install a fascist dictator. George W. Bush's grandfather was literally involved.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I suppose you're right that bringing nationality into it probably wasn't the best idea.

This is still unacceptable though

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

i know you've probably been always taught differently, but this is objectively untrue. this country was literally built on genocide and slavery, it was steeped in misogyny and racism.

America has always been this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago

Not to mention the US also always had a nazi problem. There was enough before we joined ww2 to fill up Madison square garden in protest. They just went quiet when we joined the war and it Became unamerican to be a nazi. And that's not even counting the nazi scientists that moved here after the war.

They've just been around waiting for people to forget and become more radical to make their moves

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago

That'd make sense. This country operates off indoctrination after all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

(replied to wrong comment)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

The sad thing is that Mango Mussolini would be stupid enough to actually pass something like that.