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Straw man
Do you not think the far right wants to exterminate groups because they are impure?
I think they want to expunge groups because a monoculture is easier to control. If everyone fits into a couple of narrow boxes that all speak the same language, fulfill the same roles, have the same hard limits on expression and are all able-bodied, mentally tuned to function as desirable cogs in a machine you get an easily exploitable force. It's why they want all costs of maintenance and risk borne by the individual and more specifically the family unit which has the power to ostricize and disenfranchise on a micro scale. Pluralistic societies mean that the individual is supported by a culture of acceptance and those groups all run off of different rules which make demands of society. They want a society that makes very few demands but feels catered to thus earning higher levels of compliance.
They do. The problem is that the far left wants the same.
The meme is comparing the far right with the moderate left.
If it's meant to be US politics, they're comparing the far right to the near right. Our left is carefully contained so it can't affect anything.
Genuinely asking. What groups do the far left want exterminated?
Take your pick. Who they most want to exterminate is other far left who have slightly different opinions, because these are “class traitors” and “counterrevolutionaries”.
Depends on the group and the country they're from but it goes from anyone with more money than the person speaking, to any foreigners, to anyone with a brain that dares to think differently ("counter-revolutionaries").
See Cuba, north Korea, Soviet Union (and puppet states) and the lemmy instances most people defedarate from, like lemmygrad.
Maybe it's just my definition of left then, but that doesn't seem compatible with leftist views, at least in my opinion
Well, we are talking about far right and far left, not moderates.
Well most people on the right would say that the extermination of a group is also incomparable with their views.
far right. And I was specifically referring to authoritarianism with my above comment.
I thought the joke was that the alt-right says these perfectly normal things are far left?
Might be, in the US anyone asking for something as mild as universal Healthcare is quickly labeled extremist...
Genuinely asking, not trying to be a dick, do you think the far left actually want that too? What makes you say that?
Well the far left (tankies) are actively supporting genocidal authoritarian regimes. Comparing extreme right wingers to non extreme left wingers is just complete shit.
Are tankies actually far left? I may be wrong but I don't think you can be far left and authoritarian. Those two don't seem to align, to me that is.
I think the political scale is the problem. Left and right doesn't give enough nuance. We should be focusing on individual problems in their own rights and circumstances instead of using umbrella terms to write off the problems as sypmtoms of said term.
Yeah that's fair
Every communist regime so far has been authoritarian.
Yes that is true, I feel like the semantics of "no true communist" are valid, authoritarianism doesn't fit left wing in my view
No true Scotsman is a logical fallacy. It’s literally nonsense.
Yes I know, that's why I said it feels like but I didn't intend to make it as an argument, that's why I highlighted the fallacy
every meme is in essence a straw man XD
you really thought you were smart here