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oats aren't mamals, can't see how he could possibly get milk from it.
Same for almonds and everything else.
I also don't order cow juice.
The word 'milk' in the English language has been used to describe plant-based milks for at least 800 years. Soy milk and Almond milk as beverages have been around for at least 1000 years.
You're ahistorical proscriptive definition is just bullshit gatekeeping. You are wrong and should feel bad about yourself over it.
an opaque white fluid rich in fat and protein, secreted by female mammals for the nourishment of their young.
Jeez man how can you be so triggered and fanatic about something?
Touch some grass
Proscriptive definitions aren't how language works, and never have been.
I like that wordds have meaning. Whatever it is, milk or juice, it shouldn't get you to react like that.
Words do have meaning. And the meaning of the word "milk" has included plant milk for at least 800 years.
I don't like when people with 0 understanding of the context or history of something act indignant about something they are so clearly and demonstrably wrong about.
You can not like it, IDC but have some manners
Don't get all condescending about something you're clueless on if you don't like being called out on it.
You've got a case of the projections.
I am actually discussing here with civil people who disagree, what I don't like is some illmanered reaction from a clearly unstable person, triggered by 'milk.
So go away.
By sibling in satan, you are the one who posted an unnecessarily contrarian comment as a top-level reply in this thread and then getting all bent outta shape upon being corrected.
Can you read?
See it as contrarian or not, "bullshit gatekeeping. You are wrong and should feel bad about yourself over it" is what he wrote.
This unstable guy is clearly the one bent outta shape.
Now stop milking this and do something useful with your time.
Bye now.
Cope, seethe, mald 💅
That was before I read you are an anarchist, now I know it's not possible
A word has multiple definitions.
In English (or French), milk can also describe a while liquid. There are six definitions for milk on Wiktionnary, and here is the second one:
There is also something called cement milk
I was walking under a decrepit elevated expressway and there were signs saying to be careful about cement milk dripping from the ceiling. I don't think there's any mammal involved in producing that type of milk.
Yes you make a good point.
Cement milk is not a food liquid, words are made up all the time and they already have the word juice.
They should find a new one.
I am glad that Wiktionary had this: Following a European Union (EU) court ruling in 2017, the term milk cannot legally be used to market purely plant-based products
"almond juice" has been called "almond milk" in the french language since middle age. That's not the issue here. The guy probably order something that was not on the carte. That's it. There is coffee shop than specialise in fancy and complicated coffee based beuvrage. In a regular café, you should check the menu before asking for your favorite drink for a shop at home.
How do you not have oat milk though, it's the easiest dairy replacement for coffee.
No it is not. It is to you and your context. When it comes to plant-based milk, anything other than soja and almond is considered very exotic in France, most of people have never tried it. French people have coffee black or with cow milk. Lactose-free cow milk is part of everyday life and most of people don't have milk in their coffee if they don't want cow milk. As for latte, it is not a everyday drink but a treat and in many place people will not understand you are ordering a latté (litt: of milk) if you don't even plan of having milk.
I see. I've heard that oat milk is so easy to make that I thought it must have spread everywhere.
I've made some at home and it is by far my favorite type of plant-based milk but it is definitively an exotic beverage to the average Frenchman who anyway only eats oat in muesli.
France doesn't do new food stuff
Yes, I don't see how you can be indignated about something so trivial you need to make a post about it.
Why do you think milk can only come from mammals?
That's the definition of milk, so yes
It's a definition, but hardly the only one.
Lol what an original joke.
that is a surprisingly normal reaction, unlike the unhinged extravagantly vileresponses I got from daring to make a joke about their precious oats.
Man people get triggered fast.