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C'mon guys this is such an easy win for us as a country. Justin went a little too far with his style of governing for a lot of you and now the liberals have voted this guy to be it's leader and new PM. This is who we want to lead us into the second half of the 20th century, this guy is so fucking smart. Pierre just sings slogans and simple pretty things that sound nice but in reality he's just going to sell us off to American interests and cut the things that help working people.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (31 children)

“If you're a fan of the established order of capitalism Carney's your guy for sure…”

I think both Pierre and Carney fit this description.
However one will cheer on the 51st state and one will lead a stable economy

[–] ninthant 59 points 2 weeks ago (29 children)

No, it doesn’t. There are two important differences.

PP is a devotee of the cult of the free market, that markets are best and all we need to do is remove restrictions on them. Carney believes markets should serve to people, that the end goal isn’t just naked efficiency but they we need market forces directed to get human-centric outcomes.

This is extensively covered in Carney’s 2021 book “Values” which I encourage everyone to read in order to understand the important differences in these approaches. Carney’s approach is an explicit rejection of the idiotic free market cultism of PP and his ilk.

Another critical difference is in competence. Carney is an experienced leader who was so well-regarded in his field that the UK selected him as the first ever non-local to run the Bank of England. Whereas PP can’t even manage to handle questions from friendly press, let alone lead something.

So no, they are not the same. You might still want to prefer an explicitly socialist approach that rejects markets entirely, which is a legitimate perspective for sure. But aside from the revolution party no one is really advocating that at the federal level.

[–] Arkouda 6 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Well put and I second the encouragement to read his book. If nothing else it will help one understand Economics a little better.

[–] ninthant 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Which is separate from saying everyone should agree with it.

I’d love to see a similarly highly-competent socialist economics nerd leading the NDP in our future.

[–] Arkouda 3 points 2 weeks ago

Agreed.

I would just love to see highly-competent people in politics across the board. We need less career politicians, and ideologues, and more experts in their fields running the show.

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