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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I don't actually believe Jesus ever claimed to be holy or did half the shit he is claimed to have done. I think he was an activist and kind person and the story got twisted over time.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

Only the true messiah would deny being the messiah.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He was a doomsday prophet.

He claimed God was about to show up and judge everyone for their sins and then start a new world order. But then he got killed by the state and one or two of his followers had hallucinations of him a few days later (more common than you think). They essentially then rationalized WTF him coming back from the dead meant, and that morphed into Jesus being God. The first few decades after his death was a whirlwind of arguing about the "true" nature of Jesus and standardization within the baby church. Over the next few centuries there were more arguments that were less fundamental than turning Jesus into a God, though being a religion, the arguments were insane and fierce. Cue to today and we have a bunch of sub-versions of Christianity and even a whole spin-off religion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Several thousand over different days and locations, not "one or two". If it were one or two then this thing would never have taken off. People back then weren't as dumb as we like to believe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

So it's fairly likely it really was only a couple, but they were already devout and already had teammates to go and start this new church, which explains their success and gumption in starting a new church. Within a few years the descriptions of Jesus post-crucification become more and more elaborate and more and more robust against doubt. Essentially, as the disciples encountered resistance to their word, their stories became harder and harder to refute. Afterall, what's a little embellishment when you're trying to save people's souls? In the earliest gospels we have, Jesus is only seen by a few people and he ascends almost immediately. It's not until the later gospels that we get Doubting Thomas and Jesus walking around for 40 days before ascending.