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Speed-pedelecs are allowed to go 45kmh and are allowed both on bike lanes and car lanes in the Netherlands. They have a license plate as well, looks like a regular ebike.
In that case the Netherlands is ignoring EU law, which now very clearly defines a regular e-bike: 25km/h, 250W max output, no throttle.
PS: clarification - if they have a license plate then obviously they're not regular e-bikes. Seems to me crazy to just allow them in bike lanes.
i've never understood the dislike for mopeds on bike paths (let's not talk about lanes, bike lanes should not exist), it's only a problem if they go too fast, which bikes can and will do as well.
Sure but you must see that speeding is far easier for a motorized vehicle than for a bicycle.
This is the same as in Belgium, where the faster e-bikes are counted as light mopeds. Max speed of 45km/h, and they must use the bike lane whenever the road speed limit exceeds 50km/h, and the road if not. Most of our city centers are 30km/h speed limit, which also counts for these e-bikes, just as all other motorized traffic.
In Belgium I saw petrol mopeds on bike lanes as well
And they are required to, depending on their motor size, following the same rules. So basically a fast e-bike (spedelec) and petrol mopeds are counted as the same type of vehicle.
That was a big culture shock for me, seeing motor vehicles share the same lane with bicycles... I guess nowadays with ebikes and escooters it shouldn't be as surprising.