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Ah, but you see, drivers have the freedom to go the direction they want at any time! Like turning onto an on-ramp. Or off at an off-ramp. Then you can turn at designated intersections at specific times, as long as you are not impeded by one-way, no left turn, no u-turn, etc. Then you can park your car wherever you want, as long as there are places to park your car close enough to your destination, and as long as you pay any fees for parking in high-demand areas or get permission to park there.
As opposed to trains and buses where you can only get on at a specific place... or off at a specific place. Then you can only walk in literally any direction, provided you are not impeded by the flow of cars.
Where's the freedom in that?
Saw a TikTok on the Saturn ad that posed how inefficient car transport is when scaled with large populations. Basically, if you remove the body of the car and have people walk on those same roads, they are just taking up so much space. Traffic is horrible even though there is plenty of space between people. The comments section lacks media literacy in the most basic sense. Either they were willfully ignorant, or just outright stupid.
All the comments were like "doesn't this prove cars are the most efficient form of transport?"
Americans truly need to visit Tokyo, or really any city outside the US that HAS ACTUAL PUBLIC TRANSPORT INFRASTRUCTURE.
I live in Houston, the worst possible car centric nightmare and I get nearly killed every other day. It's gotten to the point where you don't even flinch when someone almost rams you in a head on because these near misses happen all the time.
I am so fucking sick of cars.
sounds like large populations are the problem for cars, not cars being inherently a problem.
"It is impossible to fix that" ~citizens of the only country where it happens
Classic
I like to model my problem solving with human needs as the goals and machines as tools to achieve that. The inverse you propose sounds awful
Great take, we should take all the humans out of cities to make them even more car-friendly!
It worked for Radiator Springs!
I don't know if you realize that you live in a society of humans, nor cars
Do you love cars more than people or something?
one trys to criminalize my friends, the other provides a more reliable form of transportation to the big airport than the smaller airlines and results in fewer deaths than firearms in my country.
…criminalize your friends? That’s such a funny victim complex thing to say. Buddy I drive a fucking sportscar(when I drive at all) and I don’t ever feel “criminalized”, even when the local main street becomes pedestrian in the summer(it should be year-round). There are some places that have banned certain types of cars from their downtown cores but for the most part no one is criminalizing cars. What they are doing is pointing out how every single piece of evidence ever gathered reinforces that robust public transit is the best way in urban or semi-urban environments and that even rural communities could be tighter and more walkable.
Also if cars are resulting in fewer deaths than firearms I’m shocked about how bad the firearm problem must be where you’re from(or wondering how many people actually have access to cars).
'murican republican party is trying to criminalize immigrants, LGBT youth, and pro palatinian speech; I have yet to see a car discriminate who it maimes or kills. IIRC there are plans for California to make new ICE cars illegal in 2035. and yes the us does have a bit of a gun problem.
What the fuck are you talking about? This is community aimed at improving public transit infrastructure and getting cities, especially North American ones, off of car dependency. Your comments are written like you’re trying to fight against what this community(and all the science) says and are now going off about entirely unrelated things without really explaining, in any sort of detail, this tenuous link your mind has created. You even said that cars provide a better transportation service to airports than small airlines do(???) and that’s just completely off the rails to the point I can’t even guess at what you might mean with any level of confidence.
I’d love to figure out what the fuck is going on with you and this seemingly backwards, condtradictory opinion, so next time you reply can you just start over from the top and please take your time, there’s no rush.
False comparison, terrible argument. People also legalise cars and build roads. Try again: why would you prefer fewer people to fewer cars?
people destroy the environment, cars need people to cause significant environmental harm. If you just reduce the commonality (people) there will be less environmental harm, fewer deaths, and fewer cities pushing their employment heavy ideals on the rest of the country.
Reducing the population won't lead to fewer deaths. The very act of doing so would itself be death on an untold scale.
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That's an interesting way to phrase that. But indeed, cars and high population densities do not combine well.