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All religions are poison. Picking which is worse between lead poisoning or arsenic?
That’s all you bud.
I’ll be poison free.
So like I used to be anti-religion. But when I studied the history of religious thought, it seemed like every criticism I had of religion I was able to find a religious tradition which explicitly accounted for that criticism, and it made me realize a lot of the essential beliefs that I had about religion in general were simply untrue. Like there are religious traditions that literally deny institutionalization (so you can’t even associate religion in general with organized religion), there are literally religions that explicitly reject the existence of any kind of deity (so you can’t even identify religion with a belief in some kind of a god). In general, it seemed like the only thing that literally all religions had in common was that they represented a set of metaphysical beliefs that an individual has attached themself to for whatever reason. And I realized that it’s kind of impossible to never make any metaphysical assumptions about the world we live in. And I started to ask myself questions like “is it even possible to reject the entire category of religious thought in a meaningful way while still retaining the ability to reason about the world?” And “is there actually a good reason why I don’t want to think of my own humanist ideas about the world as religious in nature, or does it just make me feel kind of funny because I had already prejudiced myself so heavily against the concept of religious thought?”
Weird. I had the exact opposite experience.
I find every religion to be a liars den of lies.
And all religious people are liars fools or worse.
Humanism and religion are polar opposite ideas.
Don’t apologize for religion. It’s gross.
Keep that shit away from me and my kids. You bring it near my kids we are going to have a fucking problem.
I feel like you didn’t actually try to understand any of what I just said. I hate to break it to you, but it’s literally just a fact that there are religions that make metaphysical assumptions that are literally equivalent to secular humanism. If you think that they’re actually contradictory, it just means that you probably actually haven’t tried to study the history of religious thought from an actually critical perspective where you didn’t just presume that you already had it all figured out.
I refuse to “understand” anyone who believes in metaphysics.
It’s just more make believe hokum
I really think you should look into what constitutes a metaphysical assumption if you think that you can escape making them
I think you shouldn’t assume someone isn’t knowledgeable about all the different superstitions of the world.
I am, in fact, knowledgeable on this subject.
I have concluded that all of them are bullshit.
Every superstition or metaphysical (lol) or faith based belief system is baloney.
No proof for any of them to be correct.
Not one shred of evidence.
Not a single one.
Dude were done here.
I really don’t feel like we’re on the same page right now so let me just ask you some questions and focus on what I believe to be a serious misconception you have about what metaphysics is:
Do you understand that when two quantum physicists are arguing about what the “correct” interpretation of the mathematics of quantum mechanics is, that they’re literally arguing about metaphysics? Do you understand that when Albert Einstein figured out general relativity, he did it literally by reconsidering the metaphysical assumptions that were implicit in Newtonian physics? And if you do understand those things, do you think that Isaac Newton and that Albert Einstein (both of whom thought a great deal about religion, more broadly too, in particular about what their work suggests about the world we live in) were just like liars and fools or something?
Fools. They were fools who believed in metaphysics.
We know better today.
This is not a position born out of logic and reason, but out of hate. I hope you get better at some point, you obviously have suffered a lot to become filled with rage this much.
Bingo.
All religions are hate groups. EVERY SINGLE ONE.
You nailed it.
You’re so close to getting better yourself.
You don’t sound like someone who is doing well, why would anyone want to be like you? The folk replying to you are applying empathy and patience while you shut everyone down with vitriol.
Being angry isn’t fun, anger slowly drains you of your joy and energy. Anger only feels like fun when the alternative is to face pain
Bro check out my username. I’m fueled by anger. I got tired of being scared. It brings me unlimited amounts of joy!
Punk fucking rock my man, punk rock.
Speak truth to power and idiots. Remind folks that power is derived from the will of the governed and not the authority we bestow upon our leaders.
Try and armchair psychologist me into being some sad person if it helps you rationalize your own sadness
I’m happy to fight. I waited my whole fucking life for this shit.
If you think every religious person is evil then I'm sorry, but your religious trauma is not an excuse. Go back to reddit.
Not necessarily evil. But every religious person is damaging to society and the environment out of ignorance, because, for example, their voting is based on beliefs disjunct from reality, including absolute morals that will vilify a substantial part of the populace for no sane reason.
The people are not all necessarily evil. They are mostly indoctrinated and duped. The religion itself is just as evil as any other virus that weasels in.
A lot of words to apologize for evil.
Barking up the wrong tree there comrade.
I've had a burning hatred for basically all religions since the nurses used to bloody me when I was in kindergarten.
But my wife is an ex-theist. Is she evil for believing what she was told until she got out of her little town/church?
No she is not evil.
She managed to escape.
People can be redeemed.
We contain multitudes
No. You go back to church.
Fuck your god.