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I hate to break it to you, but Americans are exceedingly inculcated with the idea of exiling racial groups.
77 million or so.
I don't know any R voter who has a single bad thing to say about what's going on right now. I haven't seen one online either. (except those saying it's not going far or fast enough) I peek at /r/conservative every so often and it's nothing but cheerleading.
And nothing happening right now is a surprise to anyone who wasn't trying not to see it.
They are cool with it, or it's not a dealbreaker, at best.
Arnold Schwarzenegger?
I've seen several regretful Trump voters in news articles.
But yeah, haven't met any IRL either. Including my own parents.
A lot of them took their flags down and sit quiet.
Afraid to admit they were wrong.
🫂
What gets me is those articles are always like "MAGA civil war over this decision from Trump!" And of course that's what you want to hear, and you think 'finally!' and then it's screenshots of like 3 disgruntled magas on X, one of whom thinks he hasn't gone far enough.
He's not doing anything surprising. He telegraphed exactly what he would do for years. We had 4 years of him trying and failing to do it, then 4 years of him saying he would do exactly what he is doing if they elected him again. And they voted him in anyway.
Their crocodile tears mean nothing, and I'll not willingly associate with any conservative nor Republican until old age takes me in two or three decades, at which time the country will still be recovering from what they've done. And it especially doesn't count if they are whining because their business or their family has been hurt by Trump policies. Republicans caring when they get impacted is nothing new.
The 6% have my apologies.
So do all the Republicans who have been frantically writing their representatives and senators in recent years asking them what the fuck has gone wrong that they are ALL supporting this march to fascism. (and yes, I know about Kinzinger etc, all immediately despised by the rest of R when they tried to stand up to Trump)
I figure maybe there are twenty or so of them. If it was enough to do anything at all, then the entire Republican apparatus wouldn't be supporting Trump balls-deep because it would have been clear to them for YEARS that this is not what Republican voters want. But it's not clear, because the twenty mythical decent republicans writing them angry letters isn't really enough to do jack shit. What's clear is that this IS what Republican voters want.
The other thing making it clear this is what Republican voters want - 94% voted for a convicted Felon, who had given them a preview in 2017, and who had been responsible for Jan 06, and who had spent the past four years making sure we all knew that he would do EXACTLY what he is currently doing.
No conservatives in my life ever again if they aren't there by blood relation, and bare minimum for them. I'm almost sixty. My memories of conservatives trying to fuck everything up for people go all the way back to when I was 13. I have no memories of Republican policies doing anything but what they are doing now. Harming people and helping the rich.
Where we are at right now is the logical eventual outcome of every Republican or conservative position I've heard espoused in my lifetime. This is always where they were headed. They finally got control, and they are being just as terrible as anyone ever predicted.
Fuck it, I'm done. I've spent as much of my life as I'm going to acting like there's any possible way I can be compatible with these people. Every last one is dead to me, and I will not ever, under any circumstances, support a Republican for so much as a street sweeper until the day I die.
WHAT GROUND? I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm angry at you but WHAT GROUND? Will they reject the next truly awful person put up by R, or will they just vote for them again anyway?
I know where my money is at.
They are getting what they pushed for this entire time. They are getting what they had every reason to know was coming when they pulled the lever for Trump (a third fucking time). We're all riding this flaming wreckage together, I'm not going to hold their fucking hand while we go down in the catastrophe they created, all the while being told by them how it's just fucking awesome that we're finally getting things under control.
Like ten republicans? I'm not ignoring it, I've seen zero evidence to support this.
LOL I'd LOVE to stop paying attention to the crumbling of our government at the willing urging of Republicans. I'm paying a lot of attention. I see crickets from R, or cheerleading, or condemnation of any R who dares break ranks. Since 2017. Except those 6 republicans that Kamala paid to run ads for her when she was trying to win R votes instead of D votes in 2024.
Too much to ask for just one source, eh?
Allegedly.
It’s a large enough percentage to reach the White House, and unfortunately that’s all that seems to matter.
Ah, you’re making the mistake of thinking we have free and fair presidential elections. We do not. It’s fucked.
Matters little if that "very small group" has power and is getting away with it
Got any hot tips for winning a class war? From the disadvantaged side, please.
I realize this is sarcasm but honestly: all of you/us are greater than all of them, if enough of us can actually unite on what we want and how to get it.
Unfortunately it's also why there's been a huge effort on dividing people by race/gender/religion/etc that might otherwise have been united in socio-economic struggles.
It also means that the people who need to give something to push for change are (deliberately) kept in situations where they have the least to do.
Which is why supporting community/network is important.
Having a politician that isn't an evil fuck is good, but that politician isn't going to watch your kids while you're at a protest or in the hospital. They're not going to help you get to work when your car breaks down, or help you fix it.
They might stand beside you at a protest or union meeting, but one or a handful of politicians says less than community of hundreds or thousands.
We need to rebuild communities and support networks. Yes we need the help of politicians - or at least less actively fighting against us - but we also need to rally with each other. The attacks on this guy reflect much of the same as those on our communities.
If somebody is a "gay Muslim trans-woman Iranian refugee amputee" who is willing to stand by me in times of need, I'm willing to stand by them and they're welcome at my BBQ.
You don’t need to live the US to know about it, and actually it makes it a lot easier because you aren’t dealing with their shitty education system or the propaganda. Besides, I’m Canadian, and have to deal with that pile of garbage all the damn time.
Get outta here acting like I can’t judge the US because I’m not in it. Get right outta here.
I've lived here going on 60 years, in multiple parts of the country, in about ten different states. I'm also a veteran.
100% accurate, whether that other commenter lives here or not.