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The industry's trade association, the Retail Council of Canada, said the new policy "unfortunately" targets large grocers exclusively.

"Which is impractical, as Canadian retailers lack direct control and influence over the global supply chain," said Michelle Wasylyshen, the council's national spokesperson.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Are people mad about this?

I rather my egg cartons come in recyclable cardboard than the weird ass plastic thing. Milk used to come in glass bottles. Peanut butter and jam too. Theres absolutely no fucking reason to put bananas in a plastic Ziploc bag.

Y'all want more microplastics?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Completely forgot that you guys have literal milk bags. lol
I don't think I've ever seen an egg carton that isn't out of recycled paper though. For glass stuff there's at least an argument to be made about weight, but in regards to drinking water it should ideally be unnecessary anyway through clean tap water.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I'm in the US, but I've seen plenty of plastic egg cartons. Most are paper, but plastic isn't uncommon in my experience.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The only plastic cartons for eggs I've seen were clear plastic ones for colored Easter eggs.

[–] EhForumUser 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Styrofoam cartons used to be common. Don't seem them much anymore, granted.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Definitely not where I am living. We only had the same cartons going all the way back into the 90s.

[–] EhForumUser 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Completely forgot that you guys have literal milk bags. lol

Packaged together in another plastic bag, then placed in yet another plastic bag at checkout. It is the Russian doll of consumer packaging.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

What's the second plastic bag for? On checkouts we only have paper bags. At least for like throwaway ones.

[–] NathanielThomas 1 points 2 years ago

Milk used to come in glass bottles

I don't want more glass (deposit and all) unless they go back to milkmen delivering it and taking away the empties. And even then, that wouldn't work because of the delivery costs.

I have so much glass I have to take to the recycling depot and it's not worth your time and gasoline to do it.

[–] Revan343 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Milk is generally better off in plastic than glass for emissions reasons, unfortunately. Glass is too heavy

[–] dylanmccall 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Avalon Dairy in BC uses glass bottles, and grocery stores which sell them take them (in exchange for your $1 deposit) and send the bottles straight back to Avalon. They get cleaned and reused directly. If you're at the store, you can look closely at all the bottles and find the dates they were first used. Alas, I've kind of gone off getting them now that we're using 2L bottles of milk every week - the bigger bottles are extra bulky and my nearest grocery store doesn't sell Avalon.

I'm still a big fan, though. It's a good system, it genuinely causes the bottles to be reused (instead of just not made out of plastic, or "recycled"), and it's so simple. We could easily have this for everything if we regulated (or at least incentivized) specific containers for groceries, at least for things packaged domestically. No more needlessly complicated special jars for different brands of maple syrup. If every company used the same containers, when they reach the recycling depot (hopefully intact, although that's another problem) we could actually do something sensible with the things.