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Some reflections on the Australian experience and what they might mean for Canada.

After Google’s move on Thursday, Heritage Minister Pablo Rodriguez sent a written statement calling the companies’ moves “deeply irresponsible and out of touch … especially when they make billions of dollars off of Canadian users” with advertising.

Australia’s regulatory experiment – the first of its kind in the world – also got off to a rocky start, but it has since seen tech companies, news publishers and the government reach a middle ground.

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[–] PenguinTD 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am curious about what is that middle ground?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It’s called negotiation. What Canada is doing is not that. They are demanding unbounded amounts of money.

In Australia they ended up negotiating a price that worked for both sides. No doubt a predictable among each year too.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The proposed regulations haven’t even been published for consultation yet.

[–] a1cypher 6 points 2 years ago

The bill received royal assent last week, but I guess it leaves it open for specific implementations. Google and Meta oppose the whole thing. https://www.canada.ca/en/canadian-heritage/news/2023/06/online-news-act-receives-royal-assent.html

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, which is literally why Google said they are preparing to remove links. They are not going to incur completely unknown penalties. In Australia Meta and others also pulled links for the same reason. It was only after they negotiated a price that worked for both sides that they came back. If I ran Google or Meta I'd do exactly the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They are jumping the gun.

Retroactive establishment of penalties aren’t a thing in Canadian federal regulation.

The penalties can’t be implemented without a Gazetting period for the regulations, and Meta and Google will have the opportunity to formally comment on the proposed penalties then.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Retroactive penalties absolutely are a thing. I've known people who have gotten bit by that when tax laws change retroactively. Also, Google hasn't yet blocked anything, but implementing a block like that doesn't happen overnight. So yes, they do need to start writing the and testing the code to do the blocking now, not at the last minute. The announcement is also part of their negotiation, making it clear that this is in fact a possible outcome.

[–] PenguinTD 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I mean what's the amount per capita or per link generated during search.