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    [โ€“] [email protected] 154 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    As someone who worked (trying to) teaching people how to use computers, I can tell you that windows isn't user friendly. People just got used to it. I had a far easier job when teaching how to use android and a gnome gui.

    [โ€“] [email protected] 63 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    I love I have to distinguish between Windows settings and โ€œno, old Windows settings. Go to the control panelโ€ where they havenโ€™t changed it since XP or whatever but you need it for some stuff.

    [โ€“] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago

    Some of those dialog boxes have not changed a bit since Windows 3.0.

    [โ€“] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Android user experience depends heavily on apps. Most of the popular apps changed their UI many time over the past decade. Getting people especially the elderly to frequently learn these changes is not a feature of a good UI.
    (Remember what Microsoft did with Windows 8)

    [โ€“] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Can't agree more. People get so confused because of those random significant changes out of nowhere. Software companies don't seem to do any long-term planning or previous research on usability, and treat their apps like playgrounds, forgetting that a LOT of people rely on them, most without high tech skills.

    [โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

    I only realized today samsung had changed their previous night mode/Grey shade mode to theater mode. But could only do that from watch because I had somehow turned it on while sleeping

    [โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

    Microsoft jumped the gun and thought everyone would be working off of phones, like bro imagine programming on a phone keyboard

    [โ€“] [email protected] 66 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I don't understand the GNOME(bad), KDE Plasma(worse), X.org(worst)

    What is it supposed to mean, and why are the 2 DEs compared to xorg?

    [โ€“] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

    Even excluding X.org: KDE worse than GNOME... pff, speak for yourself.

    [โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

    Yeah they're quite different DEs, it's really a preference more than one being better than other

    [โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

    I choose to interpret that as a self deprecating joke

    [โ€“] [email protected] 66 points 10 months ago (2 children)
    [โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

    A Monument to All Your Sins

    [โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    It's in the picture, just so far to the top-right that it's offscreen

    [โ€“] [email protected] 59 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    ATM's are a PC running an OS like Windows or Linux. They aren't a type of OS.

    [โ€“] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Half of stuff on this diagram is not an OS

    [โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

    not just half

    [โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

    They usually run Older Windows or MSDOS too, definitely not their own OS category.

    [โ€“] [email protected] 51 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    The more you look at the diagram the worse it gets. Why does it include os's then wm's then suddenly xorg itself and then an atm??

    Edit: also why is there a version of the linux kernel

    [โ€“] [email protected] 46 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    No, all operating systems don't suck.

    "Contains at least one flaw" is not "sucks"

    [โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

    "is not exactly tailored to my specific requirements, aesthetic preferences and built using technology I'm familiar with" = "sucks" apparently

    [โ€“] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)
    [โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Debian is quite mid, I agree

    [โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

    I don't want my OS to stand out. I want it to be out of my way.
    Like an antisocial dude in the basement who quietly handles my I/O processes for me without giving me his opinions or "helping" me manage my media and contacts.

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    [โ€“] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    Windows +WSL is a whole lot more geek friendly than osx.

    [โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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    [โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Especially modern macOS, macOS has become...too distrustful of the user IMO. Maybe even as a pathway to getting their user base used to a locked down OS on a Desktop/Laptop for future expansion of that walled garden.

    Sure, windows has system accounts with permissions levels above admin, like SYSTEM or TrustedInstaller, like macOS. But the difference is you can take control of one of these "Uber Admin Accounts", macOS does not.

    [โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

    The amount of times where I encounter an app being "too old" to run on MacOS, for the sole reason because Apple said so are too numerous.

    Nothing you can do then. If Apple says you can't then you can't.

    At least on Windows it lets you fuck up and do things that Microsoft didn't intend to.

    [โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

    The only reason that WSL exists is because Windows sucks for software development. I had more fun developing software on macOS and that has its own problems.

    I don't mean any offense, it's so much more work to get that stuff set up on Windows if you don't use Visual Studio or any of the other IDE that automated setup. On Linux or Macos it either comes with it or you install it with one command or file, no fuss no install wizard that takes forever no weird setup process.

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    [โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (20 children)

    How is Windows user friendly?

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    [โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Eniac??

    Plugging cables in jacks to program it? Yes, it's technically a computer. But have fun running stuff on it.

    [โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

    Everything since the abacus, just a bunch of crap. https://piped.video/watch?v=YRlPTbKHIPQ

    [โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    There's literally tons of desktop environments that hit the middle mark here

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    [โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

    linux mint wants to talk

    [โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

    I like how the Android logo is: something went wrong

    [โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Gnome is geek-friendly?

    And DOS bloatless?

    [โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

    MS DOS is the definition of bloat from 4.0 onwards. Itโ€™s like people assume a CLI is the hallmark of efficiency without any real understanding of the host OS.

    [โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

    LXQT wants a word

    [โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

    ACKTCHUALLY it's GNU + Linux.

    [โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

    Hmmm, no custom bare metal commercial product running linux? Roger that captain.

    • Sent from my Android
    [โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    I don't know, I think Maeomo / Meego - Nokia N9 was pretty close to ticking all boxes.

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