It's really annoying that JD had a valid point about economic experts being wrong about pushing neoliberalism. That really weakened Walz'es otherwise great point that we should be listening to the experts about climate change and allowed the couchfucker to push the "follow common sense" bullshit.
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Fuck off. It’s not about wanting families. Your policies turn women into walking coffins!
e: not even one woman anywhere, ever, should have to endure that, if it’s at all preventable. For anyone who doesn’t know, this can easily fall short of all legal exceptions for weeks, because the mother’s life isn’t actually in danger at first – though her sanity is, and it’s inexcusably barbaric.
What is Vance talking about?
Walz suddenly appears in the followup.
What the fuck does empowering the border agents mean? They are doing their jobs.
lol what “experts” said that? You mean greedy business executives? Pretty sure they aren’t considered experts.
Why does Vance look so airbrushed?
I think his suit is ill fitting. Maybe this is a Republican thing tho. Trump always wears suits that’s too big for him.
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ok JD we get it your kids are beautiful
Does anyone know how to watch MSNBC’s coverage of this (i prefer their commentators) without having any subscriptions?
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They’re both soft-balling this. Lean harder, Walz. He’s giving you ammunition!
Vance probably has marching orders to attack Harris at the cost of making himself look bad. The question is whether he passes on the chance to change his own narrative.
Honestly, that was a solid debate from both candidates. They both did a good job dancing around direct answers. They both could throw and take jabs. The humbleness and relatability of both candidates was a breath of fresh air. I think they both did a good job trying to sway anyone on the fence, and overall, I think this benefits the Republican Party most. Vance is just a much more personable person than Trump. Democrats are really going to need to turn up if they want to win this election. I really think productive right-specific voters are going to show up from both sides and determine it.
Here's to hoping personal autonomy wins out. Govement rules over ones personal body is a slippery slope. Allowing one to choose, that's freedom.
My take away is the same. That was more of a "debate" than we have had in literal years.
I think walz did good. He held his ground and had some very solid jabs. He knows his roll as second man and backup and played it well.
Vance... did suprisingly well, and will definately be a threat in the future, based on his debate skills at least. This is practice for him regardless of how the election turns out. Experience is what he lacks, and the national stage will hone him over the next few years.
All in all, ill say no clear winner for the debate on face value. It was a show for the sake of the show. But ill absolutely be paying attention in the coming years. One scandal can sink vance, and if past gop tendancies are anything, there will be one. Walz is fairly bulletproof in that regard.
That was a good effort from both sides tbh.
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I'm sorry, but I've got to go against the grain and say I don't think Walz is doing that well at all when it matters. He got caught in a huge lie and is becoming noticeably flustered. He's coming off as someone lacking experience at a national level and couldn't even clarify how his own law was written.
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Economics experts have PhDs don't have common sense?
Vance doesn't matter. Walz needs to go after Trump and remind viewers how dangerous he is.