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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 
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[–] [email protected] 95 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It also breaks a ton of non related features if you turn it off

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 months ago

Only a multi-billion dollar company can provide this kind of service. Incredible. /s

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Hey Copilot, remove everything related to Microsoft Edge.

Ok. Removing Everything.

screen goes black

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago

You know I can't let you do that, Dave

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Screen goes black

Apartment starts shaking

Void starts forming and devouring everything

Entire universe is deleted from existence

"It was all Microsoft Edge?"

"Always has been."

[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 months ago (3 children)

So, if it's on by default and then you turn it off, do they delete all the data they stole from you while you were trying to get to the setting?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago

No, but they'll turn it ON again with next update...

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago

Hahaha. "Off."

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I find this kind of thing particularly questionable because I like many people am often dealing with documents and text which I do not have the right to share with anybody even if I wanted to.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I am sure all the financial institutions and medical organizations are verrrrrry thrilled about this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I noticed via the link from another comment that "work" and "schools" can turn it off - though not exactly easily.

Are we heading for a situation like smart TVs, where individuals are wrapped in the net of data collection but companies can pay extra to not be spied on - so they don't kick up enough of a fuss or stop using the vendor.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well I'm neither "work" nor a "school", I'm sort of like a freelancer so I'm using my personal copy.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Why not call spade a spade. It is Piracy setting not Privacy setting. How come when big corporations pirate it is called AI training whereas for us it is stealing.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago

Because they own the lawmakers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

that gives a bad name to piracy.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If you use Microsoft office for work stuff, how do they get away with this? I get that they can violate your rights as an individual because fuck the consumer you peons don’t get representation from your government representatives, but when you’re working for some other company which has its own ton of lawyers and you use this product, how is Microsoft not getting their shit sued out of them?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That can be controlled by group policy for corporate installations

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Of course it can be. But what if you don’t do that. It’s then just totally fine for Microsoft to gank your IP? Like that’s totally legal and will stand up in court?

Or what if some employee fucks with their settings? Sure you can fire the employee but what about the IP Microsoft now has? It’s all good for them to use that?

Same if I just print out a bunch of documents, walk into Microsoft’s offices and hand it to them. Sure my company can fire me, maybe even sue me. But that doesn’t make the IP suddenly fair game. Even by just looking at it, Microsoft could potentially open themselves up to legal trouble.

So I don’t see how any of this is legal.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (5 children)

It's manageable through GPO and off by default in Enterprise and Education like the other unconscionable shit I guess.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure it's disabled at hospitals by default to prevent exporting protected patient information. Right?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

I work in government. We have third-party IT services, and we're legally required to take the lowest bid.

They can't handle setting up an email address without fucking up 19 times. There's no way they'll be disabling this for the whole city, so we're going to be illegally sharing information because it's the default setting.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There was literally a movie about this, the evil corp resembled Microsoft, right down to a Bill Gates lookalike CEO. Miguel de Icasa was in it with Ryan Phillips

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Antitrust (2001) staring Ryan Phillippe

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It was an accurate spelling for pronunciation at least!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

I literally went and watched the trailer and saw the mistake and still completely dyslexiaed it up

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[–] ryper 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

That setting and Microsoft's "Connected Experiences" predate the current AI nonsense. Here's a list of connected experiences the OneNote app sent me to when I tapped "Learn More". It's all stuff that does some degree of analysis on your data, so somebody probably thought treating AI as a "connected experience" made sense.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

only microsoft would nest "Trust Center Settings" in the "Options -> Trust Center" panel. or even worse, put "Privacy Settings" as a sub-menu of "Privacy Options".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

But FOSS has bad UX!!!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

They'll just turn it back on with an update in a couple weeks.

[–] phoenixz 14 points 2 months ago

We word with government data that can never be touched by third parties, can never leave the country either. We take great care with that

Also: Government here stores most of its in Microsoft services...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just click this setting! ... at the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying 'Beware of the Leopard.'

Why would you pay this much money to be treated this badly?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It's not JUST that. I've had to disable it in the past for something, can't remember what. Something had broken. But that's why it's not called AI services.

Why they don't separate it into different options I don't know. Or rather it's obvious.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Why they don't separate it into different options I don't know.

Because they don't want you turning it off. I seriously doubt they'll actually let you turn it off.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Does this also apply on Word/Excel on macOS?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Go check and let us know!

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is this relevant for Europe?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Are they not allowed to do it for users in Europe?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

EU has consumer protections miles ahead of the US. Sometimes Americans get good things from it anyway. Example from just today - my wife's iPhone began working with RCS format so now we can send photos to each other without them looking like shit. We were using Whatsapp for photos.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

you can just sext in pixels. I assume you know what each other look like. : )

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Unlikely it's for AI training, where are they getting that from?

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