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Microsoft and Friends Want to Destroy Online Privacy (www.breitbart.com)

submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Ignore the fact that it's coming from Breitbart. This is really freaky in more than one way.

FTA:

Against stiff competition, the alliance of tech and media giants has devised a plan that may constitute Big Tech’s most brazen power-grab yet.

According to Microsoft’s press release, it has partnered with several other organizations to form the Coalition for Content Provenance and Authenticity (C2PA).

Put simply, the purpose of this organization is to devise a system whereby all content on the internet can be traced back to its author.

The press release states that it will develop these specifications for “common asset types and formats,” meaning videos, documents, audio, and images.

Whether it’s a meme, an audio remix, or a written article, the goal is to ensure that when content reaches the internet, it will come attached with a set of signals allowing its provenance — meaning authorship — can be detected.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

Here’s a copy of MS blog post if anyone is interested: https://outline.com/tkP36M

Microsoft and the BBC have teamed up with Adobe, Arm, Intel and Truepic to create the Coalition for Content Provenance and Authenticity (C2PA). The C2PA is a standards-setting body that will develop an end-to-end open standard and technical specifications on content provenance and authentication. The standards will draw from two implementation efforts: Project Origin’s (Origin) efforts on provenance for news publishing and the Content Authenticity Initiative (CAI), which focuses on digital content attribution, basically content auditing.

It does seem to line up with other initiatives for corporations to sanction content according to source, in way reminiscent of google’s call for strict auditing of source code to avoid supply chain vulnerabilities.

Breitbart probably has some serious bias as a prime target of these initiatives, but thanks for bringing it to our attention and providing an excerpt. I wouldn’t be surprised to see some more coverage of this down the road from better sources.

edit: took a closer look at this ms blog post and as servicing as it is of would be content police, it is for MS a giant cloud play. horvitz uploaded a copy of their whiteboard session and all over it is "cloud service", "azure" ( https://1gew6o3qn6vx9kp3s42ge0y1-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/prod/sites/5/2021/02/disinfodp1.jpg )

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 years ago

Thanks for staying on topic, mate.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Honestly is it not possible to find a single other source than Breitbart? If this is fact important one wouldn't need to read a Breitbart post.

[+] [email protected] -21 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children)

Dumb comment is dumb.

EDIT: please stay on topic, as the rules for this sub encourage it: Try to keep things on topic

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 years ago (1 children)

What a great reply

[+] [email protected] -18 points 3 years ago (2 children)

Unsure if you are being sarcastic. But the level of idiocy and self-absorbedness required to make that first post complaining about the source rather than what's reported says a lot about the person: "hey, look, it's not a source I like, therefore it's invalid".

Typical American narcissism.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 years ago (1 children)

I do not know anything about breitbart, but what I know is that there are certain sources that are just... untrustworthy. Just saying.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Hi. I'm speaking as an admin on the site.

https://join.lemmy.ml/docs/en/code_of_conduct.html

Please don't insult other people for this kind of thing. If you don't think the view expressed is worthwhile, downvote and move on.

[+] [email protected] -9 points 3 years ago (2 children)

And what happens to the individual that came to my thread with the explicit intention of derailing it without any consideration? Let me guess? Nothing. As others have pointed out, the topic at hand is legitimate, but all the negative attention now is on me and the source. How ridiculous!

You sure are on your way to become Reddit with this double standard! Keep it up.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 years ago (1 children)

There is no double standard. Its simply that insulting other users is against the rules, but there is nothing that forbids criticising sources (which I wouldnt consider derailing).

[+] [email protected] -6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children)

Well, let's agree to disagree on the "derailing" topic. As for insulting people, I just said his comment was dumb. I don't see how that's an insult. Even intelligent people say dumb stuff from time to time, nothing wrong with it, I do say dumb stuff as well.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago (1 children)

This is not the kind of behaviour we like to see here. If you keep acting like this then you will be banned.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children)

Feel free to ban me anytime. I will make sure not to come back after the fact, too. After today, I don't see much of a difference between this place and Reddit when it comes to attitudes, anyway. At least Reddit has a huge user base, and you can engage more people. So if banning me helps anything, go ahead!

Cheers

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 years ago

Well, if you came here expecting it to be like Gab, it's not, I'm sorry, this place still have rules.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 years ago

Calm down FFS, kitsune. There is no way out if you fuel the conflict. It always ends up in a negative result.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago

It was not my intention to derail. To be honest I had no idea there could be such attention on a single thread on lemmy yet ( shows it's getting more popular!) People aren't going to take the news seriously if ir's reported by Breitbart instead of a more respected news outline. This doesn't mean it has to be a liberal or leftist news outlet instead, just one that doesn't require to go: "It know it's Breitbart but hear me out!"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago

You can't force people to agree with your opinion man. I agree they shouldn't dismiss an argument based on its source alone (unless they're unable to think critically in which case that's sad.) But mod is right. Downvote and disagree, but don't insult. It hurts your arguments position. You're trying to take shortcuts when you insult in trying to convince people of your position. It rarely works on the internet, not least because we're in a world where your opinion is a minority one and the US government is actively trying to quell dissent and push a narrative.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Even Wikipedia blocks Breitbart links by default... It's pretty ridiculous to just say I only want sources that agree with me or whatever. I'm asking any other source, whatever from L'humanité to The New York Times through the Wall Street Journal I don't care. Anything that has a bit more credence is appreciated.

Honestly after the slur filter the admin made that I disagreed with, though I completely understand why they did it, maybe it's time to block certain site (from malicious spam filled shit to even a couple of news media, Breitbart, Daily Mail or Fdesouche seem like a pretty good start IMHO. After all this is floss so one can go share Breitbart on another server.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

I agree with you, the Lemmy devs should block BBC web addresses for spreading misinformation about China and the list goes on.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 years ago (2 children)

Breitbart may be a shitty source of news, but I like how the top comment derailed the discussion on the topic at hand. Using Breitbart as a source may not be a good look, but the top comment is objectively worse and a redditor attitude leaking into Lemmy.

Caution to mods.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 years ago (3 children)

I'm sorry but I really can't give much credence to Breitbart as a source. If it's true it is concerning indeed.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 years ago

A broken clock can be right twice a day. Consider that even wolves may not eat a lone sheep someday. Breitbart can put out useful information once in a blue moon.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

So you willingly admit you use fallacies to cloud your logic?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 years ago

According to Microsoft, the coalition was created for a single purpose: to stop the spread of “disinformation” — which, in modern establishment journo-speak, means information that challenges establishment narratives. Disinformation, based on how the word is used today, might as well be called dissident information.

I totally agree with this and I think that since we are in a financial Neofeudalism it was foreseeable that dissent would be labeled in some way, all regimes have done so. This time it all becomes "right-wing extremism" or "fake news" or both.

Let's be honest, if it were really about fighting lawlessness, online bullying and dangerous fake news, neither the media, nor governments, nor corporations would have lifted a finger.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 years ago

That does suck, I hope it doeant happen but there will probably be ways around it just like a vpn sends your traffic through a server possibly there would be servers like that to publish your work on?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago

I would rather we not link to them. Look at the other articles. Look at the ads' revenue that can fund all the usual BS. Once in blue moon is not good enough for me or it needs to be some great reporting. I don't think this qualifies but clearly some people disagree. Oh well.