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As you may know, I moved to using my blahaj.zone account almost exclusively, as I kinda disliked the vibe I was getting from .world. At the same time, I also want to gage the feelings people have about the migration. Will you continue to use 196 on lemmy.world? Are you happy with the change? I want to hear from you:

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Very unhappy with the change, I probably won't go to the .world community and expect/hope that someone will just recreate 196 on Blåhaj.

Every interaction I've had with .world mods has rubbed me the wrong way, they don't take criticism well and are way to keen to appeal to centrist bullshit and shitty lib takes. Blåhaj is my favourite space on the internet at the moment because of the way Ada manages things, I feel safe here. That the 196 mods have a problem with that sends a pretty concerning message imo.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yep. the only thing i would add is that theres already too much content on .world. we need to spread content out horizontally instead of just centralizing it on the biggest instance.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago

Excellent point

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

~~I feel like im missing something here; i though 196 was already part of blahaj.zone? Is this more drama from pug?~~

Oh fuck all of this nonsense. They can try to build their own 196 (with blackjack and hookers) elsewhere if they want, why tf are they being allowed to tank the existing 196!?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

All/most of the mods seemed onboard with it, so the community would need to find new mods if it were to remain open. I would be willing to help mod such a com, but I'm not willing to spearhead it. I don't want to stretch myself thin.

My guess is that the 196 mods decided to do this because they have lemmy.world friends who got banned from blahaj.zone. There has been a growing disconnect between some frequent posters of 196, and the rest of the community. They post good stuff and might even contribute a majority of the content on some days, but they also have edgier sensibilities and higher tolerances for bullshit. This situation doesn't seem ideological to the mods because their motivation is personal. However, personal relationships play a larger role in our beliefs than most people think.

The mistake the mods made was assuming the queer culture of 196 would transfer over to .world. I highly doubt this will happen after folks got used to blahaj.zone for over a year. Many queer users won't like the new 196, and as new users join, blahaj.zone users will leave. Given the reactions here, I doubt they can do much now to stop that from happening.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

This is a good theory, the perp who had a bitch fit over neopronouns posted to world196 shortly after world196 was relaunched, hmmmmmmmmmp

Also I’d love a blahaj 196 resurgence but I’m too much gremlin to help mod srry :(

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

My guess is that the 196 mods decided to do this because they have lemmy.world friends who got banned from blahaj.zone. There has been a growing disconnect between some frequent posters of 196, and the rest of the community. They post good stuff and might even contribute a majority of the content on some days, but they also have edgier sensibilities and higher tolerances for bullshit. This situation doesn’t seem ideological to the mods because their motivation is personal. However, personal relationships play a larger role in our beliefs than most people think.

Interesting theory

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

Something about 196 being on a non-queer instance feels wrong. I can't explain it. Maybe it's because there are a lot of queer-positive posts on 196? Not sure. Meh, whatever. I think I have a vague idea of why they're moving away and quite honestly, if they want to bend to people wanting to stir shit, then maybe we're better off without them.

(Iirc the gist of it is that there was a troll who claimed to be "dragon gender" or something (which included that drag's pronouns were "drag"). Drag said a lot of nasty shit, stirred up drama, etc. People decided that was a good excuse to misgender drag and become the arbiters of what a "proper gender" is. People misgendering drag got banned, then got pissy and cried about it. In the meantime, drag was also banned at that point, it was mainly people stirring shit at that point. I'm pretty sure 196 is moving away from blähaj.zone because afaik Ada takes a zero tolerance stance on intentionally misgendering people; regardless of whether or not someone's a troll.)

Quite honestly I'm kinda at the point where I'm considering quitting Lemmy entirely. Between the drama, doomposting, trolls and increase in general dickishness, it's honestly getting really bad for my mental health.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

Do what is best for you, but it is my favourite social media. The best of the bad. Apart from random forums, the rest is just so infuriating to me.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Regarding 196: has it been different on Lemmy vs how it was on reddit? I'm on beehaw so I don't see .world posts or communities, but at least on reddit I saw a bunch of edgy shit being posted when I still used the site a few years back

Regarding Dragon rider: drag uses drag/drag pronouns iirc and has expressed previously that they/them pronouns aren't suitable for drag, so you may want to edit your wording just a tad. Still haven't been able to figure out if drag is a troll or not, but as you say even if drag is a troll drag still has a right to identity. If Ada's brilliant stance is why 196 moved, good riddance IMHO

Regarding your mental health: perhaps its worth blocking the communities or users that are bringing the majority of the drama/doomposting/etc? I absolutely empathise with the drain on mental health that can be, and I've been very very liberal with the block feature for exactly that reason. Its totally worthwhile to curate the space you inhabit online. I hope, whatever path forward you take, that you're able to find yourself feeling better and better.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

i left .world because of their shitty admins and the problems they cause smaller instances. the moderation leaves much to be desired, they have shitty takes, they do whatever they feel like and i dont trust them any more than i trust a site like reddit.

as for 196, i liked the memes, i didnt really interact with the space much as it already felt less "blahaj zone" than the rest of the comms i interact with, so with them moving to .world, i doubt it will get better, and i doubt i will ever want to interact with that comm anymore. it was kinda shitty to not include the community whatsoever, but that kind of behavior is the exact kind i expect from .world mods so i guess they will fit right in.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago

big sad feels ;(

i will not join the 196 on the not blahaj zone! GRRRR >:3

i wan the 196 to be all local and comfy. i wan it to feel like home, with all u cuties and non-cuties-but-still-amazing-peeps in it!

i don wan the 196 to be on generic world instance. will join if there be a local 196 blahaj version!

imagine the COMFY FEELS knowing that U PEEPS made the funi im looking at!! <3

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It makes me so sad, and the bottom image is an accurate representation of how I feel about it. It sucks that they made this decision without involving the community at all, and even though they say they're on good terms with Ada, some of the comment chains in the announcement post make me think that there's some bitterness on the mods' part. Ada has always been so nice and patient, even when 196 clogged up Blahaj's entire frontpage, or when it didn't have enough mods to handle a growing community. And if the mods don't like how an instance is run, what gives them the right to just take the entire community and move it somewhere else?

I came to Lemmy when Reddit committed to their API nonsense, and it always had this promise of being better than Reddit. Decentralisation was a big part of that promise. Moving 196 to the largest (I think?) Lemmy instance is the opposite of that. Blahaj feels small, local, cosy, and welcoming, like small concerts in some guy's basement. 196 always had the same vibes, and the move to .world will probably change that. That scares me because I really liked these vibes.

idk, I'm just rambling and none of it makes a whole lot of sense. I think I'll take a break for a few days, wait for whatever is gonna happen next, check out the new 196 on .world in a while, and maybe the old 196 is gonna come back somehow.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I blocked the .world 196 community, safe to say I'm not a fan 🤷‍♀️

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

How do I feel about? I fucking hate it. The last thing that any of the Fediverse needs is more centralization. @[email protected] should take immediate action and demod those that are leaving. The fact is that with the current subscribers count, if a new mod team is installed, there could be no chance of the .world community ever gaining traction. I am willing to spearhead this, but I will need help.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (5 children)

well, Ada just kicking them out for wanting to leave would also be a very bad move XP

tho I guess we should ask Ada if we can assign new mods to the 196 blahaj community since basically they've abandoned it and there's no reason to keep it locked, but making a new one would be fine too

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I imagine ada would not try and force the mods of 196 to stay or anything, if the mods of 196 think blahaj.zone isn't a good fit for them then they have every right to leave our community, however I think it's clear the community does not agree with the mods and think 196 is a net positive for blahaj.zone, so reclaiming 196 is a potential option, but in the interest of being amicable and not cause tensions with those who wish to leave peacefully, maybe making a new community on blahaj.zone would be better? possibly a 197?

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

I don’t get .world posts in my feed and will miss 196, but my internet quality of life has improved overall.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is where I hear about the move? 😂 guess I’ll miss the memes, they were a good grab bag

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

Wow. This is sad. I didn't even know 196 was going to migrate before this. I'd probably see it on All once in a while but I don't think I'd join the community.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I unfollowed every .world community I was previously following, then blocked .world entirely during the pre-backtrack period of their "we wanna do what Facebook is doing" announcement. I did unblock it later, but I'm not following anything on that instance, including 196. I don't believe what Moss and all them said about their talk with the lemmy world admins, I think eventually when they try again with the moderation change, they'll enforce it on 196 anyway, despite promising to let them moderate with their own rules. I also don't like that instance having the most content, which is just going to balloon up even more with 196's memes, since it starts going against the whole point of the fediverse, the decentralization aspect. If people start saying "well Lemmy world has the 'best admins' and the most communities so why make this community on another instance?", that's gonna have an effect, you know?

I just feel disheartened.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Also yes, I was a rule breaker, basically never posted there despite seeing it every day, but like half the memes I just downloaded and sent to my friends' dms. So 196 did account for a big chunk of my Lemmy activity.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't see why folks can't make their own 196 on each instance. (Maybe there is some reason for not specifically using "196" as the name, but a "196 themed" community.) Even back in Reddit you'd have subreddits that were things like "blah2" or "blah_casual" made by folks unsatisfied with the mods of the previous community. People can use either one or both if they'd like.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

The original subreddit was 195 or 194, so you aren't wrong. I hope it happens, but people need to step up if they want that. I would be willing to help, but I couldn't do it alone.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What happened? I though it was a good place and also I don't .world is fit for 196.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Same here - if anyone has a breakdown of what these 'moderatorial and ideological differences' are that are part of how this is being justified, that would be awesome.

Hell, even just examples of where the clashes were would help me out a lot.

Edit: To those seeing this comment who are also out of the loop, recommend starting here: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/12464713

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

Will you continue to use 196 on lemmy.world?

Probably not, and if I do it will be mostly lurking.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

like u said on another comment, Id also be willing to mod a new 196 but not spearhead it :3 (and thanks for teaching me a new word X3) and I think a new 196 on blahaj is the best option, either that or the old 196 comes back along with the old mods (which doesnt seem like they will anyway) and I already didnt like them but now I dont trust them at all, maybe it could be called 197 like back in Reddit X3 or just '196 Blahaj' to differentiate it from other 196s in other instances

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

I noticed they were somewhat unwilling to/incapable of removing comments that were mildly transphobic a while ago so while I'm disappointed that they are gutting 196 instead of new mods being introduced I'm not surprised.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You know whats interesting with all this is while Ada is getting brought up a lot in contrast to the 196 mods, I actually think there's a mod on fedi that gives an example of how to handle this kind of thing better. Db0 is not perfect per se because no one is, but I can't think of a more transparent mod off the top of my head (though Beehaws has defederated a few larger instances where they may be). When he(?) wants to do something he just asks his users how they feel. He writes a lot of blogs about whats happening in his community and since he has a hand developing some of Lemmy's tech hes sure to let you know if a user-affecting change is coming. He's not perfect but he's got what I would dub integrity. This might be putting it on thick but I myself have modded a very small (low dozens) community and I've felt the burn of a lack of communication that moss is feeling now and its avoidable. Db0 does get into trouble with his users, but clearly he's actually in it for them.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If they had involved the community from the start, I would've been fine with it (tho I heavy dislike .world). Then again, it would not have happened, had they put it to a poll.

The way it happened now, they've lost most of my trust and all of my goodwill. I'll not move. I hope we get the local 196 unlocked under new management, or otherwise we might have to create a new one.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Already blocked lemmy.world's 196. Sad to see Moss make 196 jump ship, but if what's important to Moss is visibility to as many instances as possible at the expense of user experience, then I don't think we need that community here anyway. We can always revive ours, or make a new one c:

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

I do not get the rational behind it, i get what they said, but it doesn’t clear anything up because it’s so vague.

I’m not convinced of the necessity of the move and I’m not really attached in anyway to the mod team, not saying I don’t appreciate the work they’ve done, I just have no strong attachment to them being in charge of moderation, so why would I pick up and fallow them? There’s another 196 on here now so no reason to go fallow them to .world.

Also, I’m hesitant to see large communities get concentrated on .world, it’s already large and making it larger seems risky, like putting too many eggs in one basket. If something happens to it and a lot of important communities are based there, then that kind of puts a huge gaping hole in lemmy as a whole. Better to have things distributed more evenly across other instances for the sake of resiliency.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

i’ll continue to browse the one here, and i’ll refuse to put foot on l.w. That’s an incredibly wrong move.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

I am in the process of switching my account from world to blahaj. So I'm not particularly happy about this change.

I'll use the new 196 as a passive viewer, but I'm unlikely to post or comment after this change.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

I guess the positive side to this is I will be much more productive at work without 196.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

That was Reddit aah behavior by mods.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

the whole thing was bizarre and unnecessary! kind of casted a lot of doubt on the integrity mod team for me. the onehundredninetysix community has been pretty cool and I'll keep sending posts their way

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

all in all it doesn't really matter, I don't think. Nothing much will change. I just really loved that fact that there was a popular community not on .world. I liked it being spread out.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Having only found out about it from this thread i feel i can give a perfectly authoritative and unwaveringly confident answer: eh. But seriously, I'm cool if they just want to leave blahaj, but going to world? Just why? To to literally anywhere else.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If the community stays the same, I don't see the harm. The community of 196 has always been a mix of folks from various instances, I don't think its host instance matters all that much comparatively.

I wish it didn't have to come to this, but I can't fault the mods for using the fediverse for what it was made for.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I do wish it was a different instance. Having all the big communities in one instance is concerning. I guess they weren't willing to put in the effort to go anywhere else.

On top of that, lemmy.world has a bit of a reputation as less queer friendly, as it tries to accommodate for more conservative techies. I've personally run into an awful lot of respectability centrists who refuse to listen to the concerns of minorities. They think we're overreacting, and that's very upsetting because it comes off as gaslighting. Many of them are just in denial about the state of the world; unwilling to challenge their own perception of the world as a just place.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Way too many people subscribe to the idea of "if I don't hear about it then it isn't happening." No, bitch, it's happening, and it's a hell of a lot worse than you think. It's the only way I can imagine that people truly, unironically believe that LGBT people, especially trans people, are just "overreacting".

Or to put it another way, they're the kinda people who'd unironically believe that a tree doesn't make a sound when it falls in the forest, and then get pissed off when a physicist tells them that the tree makes a sound no matter what.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We believe what we see. I guess I could be described as one of those liberal techies, and I'm a white cis hetero dude from a middle class background.

We are all monkeys after all, and if you see all monkeys around you being like you and doing okay, you subconsciously apply that to the whole world. Even if you know, on a rational level, that it's wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

yesyesyes, that is not a very decentralized move on their part. at this point we are making just another reddit but open. which is better, but not as cool as it could be.

:o

imagine how cool it'd be if all major instances have their own comfy cool popular communities and they just like - interact with one another!!! :ooooo

literally the goal behind fediverse kinda <3

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