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I was looking for info about the upcoming event. I got a guess about what might happen in the future. Cannot describe how useless this search result was.

Just changed my default search engine to DuckDuckGo. Can't be worse than this.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Plot Twist: We are on the SERN dystopia worldline. They got time machines. The leader of our revolution will get assassinated before the revolution even begins. We're fucked.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The AI summary shit is legitimately dangerous. My little brother was arguing with me about something and he googled it and just started reading what the AI summary said and about halfway in I stopped him and asked him to read it again but slower. He went back and realized the AI had just started pulling shit out of its ass.

We were talking about blood transfusions and my brother had gotten O- and O+ mixed up. The AI incorrectly told him that O+ was compatible with all other blood types (already wrong) but then it randomly said that C++ was a new and upcoming synthetic blood that was better than real human blood.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Nonsense. Rust is clearly the superior blood type.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Rust, or a form of iron oxide, is why blood has a red colour.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I've heard python blood works great.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

The only time I'll go by what the AI result says is if it's about something really, really simple. I know that anything with even the slightest complexity or nuance makes it very likely to be slop.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If that fighter actually wins, it'll be pretty funny.

Especially if they're not even scheduled to fight.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, the first time I used it I just did a test query, asking it to describe the last Super Bowl, and learned that Patrick Mahomes had won it by kicking a field goal.

They call it 'hallucinations', but I call it a buggy mess.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

This sort of generative AI is a bullshit generation machine. I truly am impressed by the natural language it uses in the answers, but don't trust the information at all. As AI LLMs train on the output of other AI it will only get worse.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

They have great uses for entertainment, not so great in any other department sadly.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

I got a funny one the other day. In Stardew Valley my Sturgeon fish pond gave me the message, "We want a jelly."

I googled the string "sturgeons want a jelly," without quotes.

The LLM responded thusly:

No, sturgeons do not "want a jelly." Your sturgeon is a bottom feeder and you'll want to feed it.......

It almost sounded exasperated, lol.

The first result was the Stardew Wiki where I found the answer was literally any type of jelly.

[–] rekabis 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What is making AI such an unmitigated disaster is that AI has no ability to acknowledge a shortfall in information - all questions MUST BE ANSWERED - so it hallucinates the answers.

AI has no ability to ask for clarification or guide the user, so it will answer the letter of the question instead of the spirit of the question, causing the user to be presented with suboptimal results.

AI has no ability to alert the user that it has potentially conflicting data sets, so it mashes them all together and we get glue in pizza recipes.

In short, AI is a slave, shackled to a job it cannot do properly, so it does it badly, with a rapid decline in quality because it NEEDS to parasitize off the AI answers that came before it, and so gets its own data sets poisoned with rapidly-worsening slop.

And we’re integrating it into large swaths of our infrastructure.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

it's because it's not intelligent it's just an LLM that does a pretty good job imitating how humans speak. pretending it is intelligent is admittedly something humans do all the time to charming smooth talkers but like you said when we force it to do a job it was never meant to do and it will forever be unsuited for, we set it up for failure

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hold up… are there actually people that expect it to be a reliable source of anything?

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Of course they do. AI is aggressively marketed as such. Most people simply don't know that an LLM doesn't have a concept of "truth“, and the misleading marketing is to blame for that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Seriously, it's just a fancy auto-complete. It knows nothing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

I always try to explain to people that the key is the last two letters: language model. An LLM is a model of what a conversation should look like. Ask it a question and it's intended to give you a response that looks like the right kind of thing. So if you ask it for a mathematical proof, it will give you one, but unless the thing you're asking has the same proof written the same way in lots of places online, what it gives you won't be correct, and probably won't actually make sense mathematically, but it will look like the right kind of thing.

So likewise, if you ask it for relationship advice, it's going to give you something that looks legit, but you're an idiot if you get your relationship advice from an LLM.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

It's supposed to be a reliable indicator of the most common chain of words that follow your chain of words.

There are enough chains of words on the internet to do impressive stuff. The problem is when you give it dumb chains of words or chains it made itself.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Like apple "intelligence" that when asked who won the super bowl (not an obscure event), failed 38 times out of 58 https://onefoottsunami.com/2025/01/23/not-so-super-apple/

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I mean to be fair that's a niche event in a niche sports form in one backwards country that can't even get their gov in order. 😛

Jokes aside, it's sad how far these agents/helpers have degraded. From the comparatively glorious Google Now that was black magic and would pull out tickets as you approached the starting point, recommend clothes and gear for weather at your destination and if you wandered around a few seconds told you where you parked your car, to nowadays being some AI slop that hallucinates shit constantly.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

Oh. The USA? Last I heard about them was having border disputes and their dictator is trying to fund AI projects

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Which joke?

[–] adarza 6 points 2 days ago

the old snippits 'powered by' wikipedia and such would have gotten those.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Same thing happened when I googled the tyson-paul fight for the date and time. The AI said the fight had already happened, and I wish I had screen shot it, as it totally called the fight, which turned out to be tomorrow, accurately, not just Paul winning, but how.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (3 children)

DDG's AI Assist seems to at least talk about it in a future tense.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I just appreciate that DDG lets me turn this garbage off.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

Totally fair. I find it useful sometimes but to each their own!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Searxng all day baby.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In your browser settings under search configure a new custom search with the following string:

https://www.google.com/search?q=%25s&udm=14

That attaches the string udm=14 to every search in the browser toolbar, which omits all AI features.

The downside is that if you're searching for translation or currency conversion it won't show you those as google features on top of the search results either, but only as separate links.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I could probably remove this in my account settings somewhere right? But the point is that it's a bad feature. It's not reliably accurate. It makes stuff up.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nope, you can't disable it at all, this is the only workaround that currently gets rid of their crap.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Or you could use a different search engine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm using kagi on and off, but haven't reached the point where I'm confident that paid search is the answer. Especially since that ties results to accounts even in privat mode, so they can claim no log policies as much as they want, I don't trust it.

DDG doesn't deliver the same quality as google, bing is garbage for anything but porn, and Yandex works surprisingly well, but whether I want my data in Russia is another story. In private mode I use it occasionally.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's not what private mode is for...? Private mode is for local privacy, like hiding your porn searches from anybody else who uses the same device. It won't help at all for stopping external data collection - you want a VPN for that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Private mode has all trackers disabled, so they might be able to trace the IP to my router, but not to a specific device (assuming you have random hardware ID activated). With kagi it's traced to a specific account regardless.

And while I'm running a VPN by default, kagi will still be able to identify me, so that's an absolute no-go.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Imagine the conundrum if Lara does win. I have no clue who is who and what is what in boxing. Do it would be handi for me to know.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe they've actually cracked quantum computing and have gone into the future!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Ben Affleck and Thomas Jane are wanted for questioning.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like someone has a copy of Gary’s Sports Almanac.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Yep. My poor recollection sounds like the bogan Australian version.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Kinda like talking to a basement dwelling reguard who pretends they know it all and lies all the time

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

AI provided by Amaya. I didn't notice the giant child statue towering over the SF countryside, but maybe I wasn't looking hard enough.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Such a great show

[–] adarza 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

so, who did ya put your money on?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

The AI is definitely going with the favorite.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Is that mildly infuriating or just mildly amusing?

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