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Summary

Elon Musk claimed on X that he eliminated the IRS team responsible for the "Direct File" program, which allows Americans to file taxes online for free.

His statement was in response to a right-wing MAGA influencer who called the “direct file” tax program a “far-left government-wide computer office” built by Elizabeth Warren.

Thus far, the website remains active.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

OpenSecrets, 02/06/2024 - "TurboTax maker Intuit spent millions in record lobbying blitz amid threats to tax prep industry"

This is the great sell-off of America. Anyone who knows what happened to Russia over the course of the 2000s know what's coming is not good.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 hours ago

That’s less efficient

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

This is just what the redhats voted for in order to lower the price of eggs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

See, I was told this was the result of Midwestern Muslims caring too much about a genocide in Palestine. :-/

I think people put too much weight on the idea of Presidential Vote as people lining up to vote on these sweeping socio-economic reforms. They have to recognize it as a much simpler - almost libidinal - endorsement of The Daddy Party versus The Mommy Party. The choice was never about how efficiently one files their income taxes (a big chunk of Republicans want the entire IRS abolished anyway) or whether the Treasury trades in Bitcoin. It was just whether one personally identified with Trump or Harris as personifications of their political Id.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 hours ago

I already got my direct file in and it says I should get the return soon so uh, here's hoping

[–] hddsx 37 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

Avoiding specifics on what he is doing, what the hell is he doing to deserve his compensation at Tesla, SpaceX, and Twitter? He’s too busy in DC.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I think most everyone suspected this, but being a CEO is a part-time job.

The elites long told us they were the hardest-working Americans.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago

Don't forget neuralink and boring.

[–] [email protected] 108 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (3 children)

Who the fuck do these people think they are. Unelected, unsanctioned, no transparency, no procedure, no committees, no votes, no oversight, no laws. Just the whims of a tech billionaire and his cronies and a President who has given him the run of Washington to rip up what he pleases. If there is any justice, both of these fucks will be dealt with harshly.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago

If there is any justice, both of these fucks will be dealt with harshly.

I mean, if the past four years of waiting on consequences for Trump is any indication...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

"unelected"

They kinda were though, Trump didn't hide the fact that that's what he wanted to do and that's what people voted for.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Disagree. They may have voted for, among other things, Elon to be put in a position to review spending and attempt to shore it up. They did not vote for him to be given free reign over all of the basic structures of government to fire, dismantle and shut down as he saw fit. And even if they did, fuck those morons.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Kings. They think they're kings.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 hours ago

They are kings. No one is going to stop them

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 hours ago

literally look into peter thiel's whole belief system

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 hours ago

It's so nice for Musk to think of the TurboTax and HR Block shareholders.

/s

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Wait, y'all have to pay to file taxes?

[–] [email protected] 51 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

In theory, no. In practice, yes, since a lot of people go to places like H&R or buy tax software to do it.

This online version, as I understand it, was a great way for people that had relatively simple taxes to do it without too much hassle.

But assholes like fElon cannot STAND the threat of a good example of government and something that benefits people they deem unworthy. That's why these dickheads went after the consumer protection bureau, too.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 hours ago

Give leon a break here, he doesn't pay taxes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

How it works is people calculate what they owe minus their deductions with aditional forms to account for situations that apply to them and then submit the necessary forms but a very large majority of the USA couldnt even be bothered to vote against Trump so clearly they're too stupid to do their taxes. They file separately for state and federal but the forms are roughly all the same.

People pay to have somebody else do it for them or have a program which goes over things in very simple terms.

All of this despite the federal already knowing what you owe and how much you paid.

A handful of states had a system that allowed people to use a free online simplified process, but not all, as it was still being tested.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago

Yes, the state always serves capital not people.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Government overreach? They're the tax people.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 hours ago

And now the government wants to privatize as much of the governments functions as possible. So in their view the government providing a service that private companies can provide is overreach.

P.S. freetaxusa.com Free federal filing and cheap state filing. Best I've filed online with after taxact became a shitshow.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The government should do your taxes for you. We will never have nice things, huh?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Not until H&R Block stops lobbying for things to be difficult.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago

Intuit (TurboTax) is the main culprit here, but yes.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

I think we might finally have a common demand that we can all agree on. Deport illegal immigrant Elon Musk and confiscate his ill gotten wealth. General strike time?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 minutes ago

Deporting seems a bit too nice. I was thinking moreso jailtime for about a couple hundred lifetimes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

General Strike doesn't appear to have any real benefit to us?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 minutes ago

There is going to be benefit any time workers take their power back. The signal it would send would echo in every job/salary negotiation for years.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Damn, I used it last year and it was great

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 13 hours ago (13 children)

Just a thought that this brings up. If you are in the USA and you procrastinate on filing your tax return until the last minute, don't do that this year. Get the return done and filed as soon as you can. We all know is not the fastest system to get a tax return (which many get and depend on), but with musk and trump dismantling the government before our eyes, some or all of those system may be dismantled or collateral damage. This means you may not get you return until much much later than you expect (and need). Getting your taxes filed early gives us the best chance to still get our return processed before this part of government stops functioning as it does today.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

But I should procrastinate paying my taxes until the last minute, yes? I have 1099 income that doesn't have taxes pre deducted from it, there's I always have to pay in (which is fine, I budget for it)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Nah, I think its time to collectively refuse to pay taxes. What's the point in paying taxes to a fascist intent on destroying the country and selling it for parts. They no longer represent the people, more now than ever before.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 12 hours ago

Nah, I think its time to collectively refuse to pay taxes.

Lots of us are owed money by the government. If we refuse to file the return, that helps the government.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 12 hours ago

Conversely, if you owe, stall stall stall, file for an extension and stall some more. (This is not tax advice, make sure there are no penalties etc etc.)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

Write your tax return by hand and mail it in. The IRS downsized years ago and got rid of the people who read these things. They will try to OCR it and have a computer review it, but if there are issues then surely a human will need to look at it.

Would be a shame if everyone filed taxes in a way that was terribly inconvenient for them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

In theory, that could be the goal. Cripple the government by choking revenue.

In practice, this is not what most people use to file taxes, particularly those who pay substantial amounts. More importantly, those taxes are mostly paid through paycheck withholdings. Most people get tax refunds by filing, or if they came up short through the year they only pay a small amount through this system.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 51 minutes ago

So it happens to create a backdoor regressive tax via over payments and refundable credits that go unclaimed?

Sounds about right when the cruelty is the point.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago

Sounds like Leon owns some tax-filing app shares.

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