Fuck trump. Canadians are our friends and family.
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Fuck trump. Canadians are our friends and family.
As an American, I agree with this message 100%.
Hey, Canada! Have you considered EU membership?
That would actually be hilarious
And not even impossible. The EU council and commission can basically freely decide if a state counts as "European".
I think the biggest hurdle might be that Canada would immediately be the 5th most powerful member state because of their population.
As the EU mostly does not decide population based but with equal votes per country that wouldn't be an issue.
The larger issue is the fact that the European and US regulations clash in a lot of things so it would be harder for Canadian companies to export to the US then.
But otherwise: We would absolutely welcome you.
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The EU is talking to Turkey about membership (on and off...), and I would say that Canada is more European than Turkey.
Canada even shares a border with Europe, so I would say it's close enough.
And a continental plate
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I don't think Canada should fully be in the EU, but some kind of set of bilateral arrangements like Switzerland has would be a good start.
Since Canada has lots of historical ties with the UK, it might work out well to have some kind of arrangement with the UK, Canada and the EU. That would let Britain start to undo some of the damage from Brexit, while also allowing Canada to reinforce those ties to the UK.
I would honestly be stoked
We didn't know we had that option. But hell yeah... what do we have to do? Make Google and Apple put a "West Europe" label over Canada?
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We still use the u's (colour, etc.). Is that a prerequisite?
That just shows that you did not fall into the degenerate ways of your southern neighbours.
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France here, our mainstream media is currently either billionaire-owned and pushing Trump and Musk admiration or publicly owned but influenced by our current government (Macron and co.) which does everything possible to cosy up to billionaires so they haven't yet (and probably never will) called Trump a fascist or Musk a neo-nazi.
You came and died in France during two world wars in the 20th century but I'm afraid France as a nation isn't gonna have your back in this timeline - except if we manage to elect a real-left government next time.
Good luck!
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i was wondering around Berlin once upon a time. in the park behind the parliament.
a slightly overly helpful german said "excuse me. are you lost?" i mumbled "no no, not really"
they walked beside me for a bit and said "ah you are english. i will take you to the parliament it's just over there". and i agreed
then they said "your boys died for my country" which really took my breath away
so yeah we got your back cananadia. that's what we do when the fundamentalists kick off. even if we have to die
FWIW, most people in blue states would probably have your backs too. The province most at risk would probably be Alberta, which... is Alberta
Most Americans have your back too...it's just our messed up voting and education systems that let the lunatic fringe gain all the power. For a representative democracy, it really doesn't represent the people.
According the most recent elections, most Americans don't.
There has to be a point where Americans who don't support chaos stop saying "this isn't who we really are" and start admitting "huh, I guess we're assholes now."
Elections tell you, semi-accurately, what THE VOTING POPULOUS WANTED OR WAS FOOLED INTO BACKING. So you got data on less than 40% of the population and half were against this.
So, the American populace are fools. That doesn't really help matters. This isn't some minority thing, it's half or nearly half of the population.
Hell yeah, im just waiting for a blue state to announce intention to secede and join the EU. But that might be messy.
;(
A messy dream.
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Inasmuch as we can, yeah. None of our planning so far has allowed for the possibility of Moronica turning into a loose cannon and going around threatening all its friends and allies. As with Ukraine, if Moronica decides you're fucked, you're fucked, and there's not a whole lot we can do about it.
If none of your planning prepared you for that, you need new planners.
I’m an American who lives in the UK and I’ll go to war for you guys before I ever go for the US military.
American who's lived his whole life stateside. Agreed.
Australia too, we got ya..
yes i am the president of those countries im glad you asked
Wait... UK, doesn't have a president... I think this guy isn't legit!
From the UK and personally, 100% yes but not sure I feel the rest of the population would agree. I mean, a lot of us turned our backs on the EU and there's a lot of cross over with US right wing nutters.
However, I would believe that when push comes to shove, we would be generally willing to defend Canada, Australia and NZ over anyone else, and then European countries at the next level. The reaction in support for Ukraine was pretty universal here and there are still lots of donations and support that is not shared with any African, Asian or Central/South American countries having similar problems.
Basically, you're white so yes you can count on us!
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What does it really mean to have each-other's backs?
I think one thing would be making some agreements in advance when it comes to refugees. Make it easier for Canadians to escape to the EU if the US does something stupid, and make it easier for Europeans to move to Canada if Russia does something crazy.
Other than that, I don't know what immediate steps could really be done. I'd love it if Canada would adopt some of the European privacy regulations, ditching the American-style laws currently in effect. But, a lot of things wouldn't be easy to change. Our cars, appliances, construction techniques, electricity voltages, plug designs, etc. are all very American-style, and those kinds of things have a lot of momentum.
But, I don't really see a downside to making the movement of people a little easier. I think plenty of Canadians would love to live and work in Europe. I think a fair number of Europeans would love to live and work in Canada -- at least once Canada finally adopts proper vacation lengths, parental leave laws, etc.
Canada would be happy with most if not all of Europe’s privacy laws once we choose to ignore US interest.
Quebec has some decent parental leave and the current federal government (Liberal-NDP) wants a nationwide implementation.
Electricity could stay different just like UK didn’t use the Euro when they where member. Most other laws should be Europe inspired even if we ‘compete’ with the US deregulation. I would love agriculture related laws to be harmonized to the high standard in Europe.
A different electrical system would mean that all safety laws about electricity wouldn't apply, there are probably work-arounds for that, but you'd lose the benefit of harmonized rules for hundreds of millions of people.
And while actual Canadians would like Europe's privacy laws, the Canadian oligarchs (the Weston family, the Irvings, etc.) probably wouldn't. Same with parental leave, vacation time, etc. And governments don't have a good track record of listening to Canadian citizens instead of the oligarchs / business interests.
Personally, I'd love for Canada to become more European, but I know there would be a lot of resistance.
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France here, oui bien sûr!
Viens sur notre instance française toi
Relou de recréer un compte, je ne savais pas qu'elle existait en découvrant Lemmy :(
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If it ever comes to it you can count on me. Sorry we put you guys in this position.
Yeah sure but the government wants to access your encrypted data first by installing a back end into your iCloud data.
Uk here, for sure.
Absolutely. Never met a Canadian I didn't like.
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