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A recent Youtube Web update has added a canvas whenever the seek bar is visible, an HTML5 canvas pops up. This was not asked for and not needed. If you disable canvases for privacy, this will cause a horrific red bad to cover half the screen until you hide the seekbar. Canvases can be used for fingerprinting, which I'm sure Google is doing here.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 108 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

You can keep canvas blocked on YouTube. To stop the red lines, do this:

Click uBlock Origin icon (top right of the browser, small red shield).

Click the gears icon ("Open the dashboard").

Click "My filters" tab. Make sure "Enable my custom filters" is checked.

Add the following string to the list of filters:

www.youtube.com##.ytp-gradient-bottom

Click "Apply changes".

Reload your youtube video page.

[โ€“] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ thanks for sharing I tried blocking but couldnt find the element

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You aren't supposed to find the element. Just copy the command into your filters and hit apply.

[โ€“] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No I tried to find the element before he shared this.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Ah I misunderstood.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait... so the red lines are added ON PURPOSE to deliberately degrade experience, and are not a side effect of having Canvas disabled?

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe, I don't know if it was on purpose. But the red lines are the red-fade-to-pink effect of the progress bar I believe, and I have not found a need for such a feature, so they might be using this feature as an excuse to claim the need of canvas.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Sure sounds like it's just an excuse, since it worked swimmingly before the canvas claim.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Thank you thank you THANK YOU! I've been trying to get rid of that ugly thing for weeks now.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Saved your comment cause I knew I would run into this issue. Thanks a bunch!

[โ€“] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Google uselessly uses the canvas for its reverse image search. And I do mean uselessly - The image you upload is put onto the canvas, then immediately relayed to the server and never used again.

[โ€“] [email protected] 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is probably a clever way of doing native JPEG image conversion on the front end, instead of pulling in (or reimplementing) a universal image conversion library

[โ€“] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Yes because as we all know that's too hard for Google to achieve.

[โ€“] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, I bet it would be trivial for one of their engineers to whip up a universally compatible, hardware accelerated image file converter in JS, using no external dependencies, and less than 50 lines of code. Hint: it uses Canvas

[โ€“] [email protected] -5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yes because as we all know 100% of browsers have a canvas.

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

which ones don't?

also, good goalpost moving.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

It's probably more of a scale thing, going a conversation server side need CPU time, if it can be done prior to upload then server time is reduced. I think a lot of websites do client side processing so they can do more requests per server instance.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

It would be wasteful to upload the full size image only to throw most of it away. JPEG compression is very cheap, especially at low resolutions (I assume that image search uses a pretty low-resolution source image). Doing it this way is actually what I would do for best user experience. (Not saying that they aren't doing other malicious things, but doing the resizing on the client is actually a good idea)

[โ€“] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What exactly is HTML5 canvas image data?

[โ€“] [email protected] 38 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's just an API that allows a web page to draw in a box. The problem is, that for a bunch of technical reasons that I'm mostly not aware of, it can be used to fingerprint you.

[โ€“] [email protected] 39 points 3 weeks ago

The canvas API needs specific access to hardware that isn't usually available via browser APIs. It's usually harder to get specific capability information from a user's GPU for example. The canvas API needs capability information to decide how to draw objects across differently capable hardware, and those extra data points make it that much easier to uniquely identify a user. The more data points you can collect, the more unique each visitor is.

Here's a good utility from the EFF to demonstrate the concept if you or anyone else is curious.

https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/

[โ€“] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago

I was wondering what that crazy bar at the bottom was! Sometimes it's green for me. Yet another reason to keep on the degoogling train...

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

I do think Google is the red bad.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm once again asking you to self-host Invidious locally on your PC.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Funny enough, I was just thinking about trying out invidious. I'll probably give it a shot in a bit

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This issue impacts PCs mainly.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Enjoy it while it still works

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Glory to Peertube!

They had a redesign and it looks pretty and is usable.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

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