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[–] [email protected] 32 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

That guy is still hanging around?

Of course in this instance he's 100% correct, just really goes to show how much of a unscrupulous hack Mike Pence is for hanging his hat on the first administration.

I have no reason to believe that Mike Pence will ever get the hang of "the truth"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 20 hours ago

Hanging is exactly what they tried to do with him.

And he still supported Trump afterwards.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago

the orange ousted him and tried to have him killed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

Screw the broken clock metaphor. Pence isn't always wrong, but it's like finding glitter in a pile of shit.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Turns out the fly was actually a brain slug. It's now in control of him and handling this situation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 22 hours ago

Omg what a reference lol

[–] [email protected] 14 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

My prediction is that this guy has a terminal illness and is scrambling to do some good deeds before the end.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Or maybe just want revenge for his boss telling a mob to lynch him.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago

Maybe, but the rest of the trumpers seem like they'd be cool with any attention from the orange one. Its weird how many of them hated him and then flipped. Makes me wonder if the Russia arrangement includes kompromat services. All these right wingers have tonnes of secret dirt to go with their holier than thou attitudes and bible thumping cred.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Mike Pence might be a religious zealot who wants to ban abortions, etc but he is still an american patriot. There is no way you can be pro US and supporting what Trump is doing. Trump is destroying alliances, good will and all the soft power the US had accumulated in over 100 years.

Soft power was the real american super power. China might have had industrial might, might have gotten equivalent military strength eventually but China didnt have much soft power. Thats why China launched the Belt and Road initiative, 10 years ago. This is a multi-trillion dollar program, that invests on infrastructure to make it easier for China to trade with the rest of the world(and to cultivate positive attitudes towards China).

With the destruction of american soft power, Trump opened a huge door for China. There is a non zero chance of Europe pivoting towards China, similarly to how China pivoted towards the US(and away from USSR) in the 1970s. If China can offer a more "reasonable" peace plan for Ukraine, it can get the EU to be more neutral towards China in exchange, maybe even staying out of future Taiwan conflict.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

He’s a supporter of republican supply side jesus and an American Chauvanist. Sometimes those traits will fall on the right side of things, but make no mistake he was fine with pretty much everything the republicans had on the agenda except for trump.

[–] ehpolitical 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Someone's gonna get sent to his room without supper.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

The dumbest possible timeline where I am forced to agree with a religious zealot because the alternative is even worse.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Imagine telling someone in 2016 that Pence is one of the reasonable ones.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It keeps happening. Nixon was an unprecedented monster, then it was W and the whole Mitch McConnell crew, and then Ted Cruz and MTG lowered the bar further, and now we're going lower than that.

I still remember when Mitt Romney was one of the massivest of the pieces of shit. Mitt Romney! Now he's not even welcome in the building, because of his reasonableness.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Regan was also a new low. Seems every GOP president we get is a new low.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

It's the boiling frog overton window methodology to convert from a democracy to a theocratic oligarchy...

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Or that Dick Cheney said he would vote for a democrat. You'd think that would help influence a few more people. The guys who were considered the hard right just 10-15 years prior are now saying "nah, fuck that guy. He's a lunatic".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You'd think that would help influence a few more people.

Who is that convincing? Nobody likes Dick Cheney, so nobody is taking his advice on who to vote for. What it did is convince some Democrats that their party is even further to the right than they thought.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The people it would be influencing would be the older republicans. Basically the Reaganites. They're not the brainwashed maga, but still vote republican. It should have helped show them that the guy they thought of as a warhawk and far right wing won't even vote for the guy then maybe they shouldn't either.

Admittedly, I didn't like Harris walking around with Liz Chaney because main steam democrats are already too centrist. It would never help sway republican voters but would scare away democratic voters to be seen hand-in-hand with a person who praised trump in his first term.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

They're not the brainwashed maga, but still vote republican.

Do those people actually exist? I thought that all of those people had converted to MAGA.

It's hard for me to imagine somebody liking Dick Cheney, but it's even harder for me to imagine somebody liking him so much that he could convince them to vote for the opposition. WTF were the Democratic consultants smoking?!

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago
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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

Can't believe I'd ever say Mike Pence said something based, but here we are.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Imaging if the GOP just impeached Trump the first dumb thing he did and let Pence be president. He would have won a second term easily and people would think politics is boring again, and go back to never paying attention to all the stupid shit they get away with

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

I wish people would quit treating Trump as some freakish anomaly. He isn't. Fascism is gaining ground around the world. This is much, much bigger than the US, and it isn't going away when Trump goes away. This is our reality now, and we have to deal with it.

[–] [email protected] 247 points 1 day ago (15 children)

This just shows how sports minded all this bullshit is. If Pence was still Trumps VP, he'd currently be tweeting "Oh, all praise our leader!"

But because he had a falling out, he find himself saying things that will fall on the right side of history. Not because he's a genuinely good person, but because the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Didn't hear Pence speaking out in 2019 when Trump was president, and was trying to extort Zelenskyy into blackmailing Hunter Biden. Pence didn't say a word.

So he can shut the fuck up. He's not wrong in what he's saying, but HE can shut the fuck up.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Hearing Pence done with all the bullshit on the night of January 6th and shutting down people who were still trying to throw the election to Trump was the one and only time in his life when I had some respect for him. This is another, maybe the second time.

I think Pence is a genuinely good person who got hamstrung, maybe beyond redemption, by a Christian upbringing. He really wants to do what's right. At least that is my read on him. He's just all twisted up to where he thinks "doing what's right" is all these horrifying things. But I don't think he's faking. I think, unlike almost everyone he hangs out with, he hasn't figured out it's a con, and is very sincere when he says he's doing the best thing for his country and what God wants him to do.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He is not a genuinely good person. He wants a Christian Taliban theocracy, full of hate and evil.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think he had an existenrial crisis after nearly getting lynched by the mob of the person whom he serves, and realized he was in a cult.

Not a good person, but a smart person, smart enough to realize the cult has gone too far.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

Not a smart person either.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Nobody gets to the position of Trump's VP with clean hands. It's just that Trump supported Pence being hanged. So like so many other conservatives, once it effects them then it's time to do something about it.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

My dude is getting Night of Long Knivesed for sure

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Nah, he's getting Trotsky'd. He's not in the building anymore. Elon Musk is the one who's up for a long-knife night.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

Not likely. Musk is the one in charge, and Trump will give him what he wants if he knows what's good for him.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I think musk is gonna get vance to plot an assasination against trump, then blame democrats and declare martial law and suspend the constitution.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

Not necessary. Musk is already in control, and they're ignoring the law and the Constitution and they're getting away with it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

Imagine if Mush was the first one slain under the scotus anointed orange immunity as "an official act for the safety of the country".

[–] nova_ad_vitum 9 points 1 day ago

He's won't simply because he's not relevant anymore. If he ever poses an actual threat then maybe.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sure the orange-bad has this guy blocked since Jan 6. Pence is just saying it to get positive attention, not because he thinks orange-bad will read it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Oh yeah, for sure. Hes out of the current republican party, his only hope is to be part of the new party if it fails.

Just like the Cheneys.

Lets not rehabilitate these people just because the current guy is a literal nazi.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Donnie incited a lynch mob against him and awoke Captain Electroshock

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ukraine started the war by not giving in to Russia, duh.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Russia was rich and famous after all.

Ukraine was wearing revealing clothing.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

I've honestly heard that argument before. People who are totally not imperialists with red paint talk all about sphere of influences, dividing countries according to that and how Ukraine shouldn't have done this and that if it didn't want Russia to conquer their land.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

The angry orange has not now, nor ever, been about peace.

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