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Gas stoves fill the air in your home with particulate matter (pm), which has been found to increase cancer risk in the long term.

So next time you buy a stove, consider choosing an induction stove.

Btw, gas stoves being better or faster than induction is a myth. They have certain specific advantages, but they are actually slower.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (4 children)

They have certain specific advantages, but they are actually slower.

This entirely depends on the stove. Consumer-lever stoves? Sure, definitely. Commercial stoves? Probably not. Commercial stoves put out 3-4x the BTUs of a high-end consumer stove, and usually can't be installed in a home because they require significant shielding around them (so you don't burn a building down) and a very high flow hood. The highest-end Wolf range has a single burner that has a maximum output of 10,000BTU, and costs a whopping $17,000; a fairly basic range top for a commercial kitchen has six burners that can all output 32,000BTU, and costs about $3700. For stir-frying specifically, you can get a single ring wok burners outputting 92,000-125,000BTU starting at about $700 for natural gas (and a helluva lot more if you use LP).

Unfortunately, I can't find a solid conversion between gas and induction stove capabilities.

Oh, and FWIW - if you live somewhere with an unstable power grid, a natural gas or LP stove will continue to function when the power is out, albeit you'll need to light it manually. We lose power fairly regularly due to storms--usually only a day at a time, but sometimes as long as 3-4 days--and it would be a real hassle to have all electric appliances when there's no power.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 minutes ago

a natural gas or LP stove will continue to function when the power is out

LP camp stoves work without power and are a good backup for an electric stove

[–] [email protected] 1 points 30 minutes ago* (last edited 28 minutes ago)

Yeah, I don't mind electric stoves but I gotta have a large high pressure burner for woks and griddles

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

1 kW is 3412 BTU/h (=BTUs)

Most induction stovetops have a boost function with around 3-4 kW (that's about 13000 BTUs).

BUT contrary to a gas stove top, almost all of the energy is actually put into the pot instead of the surroundings (only 30-40% of the energy from a gas stove is used to heat the pot). Meaning that a 4 kW induction cooktop should be comparable to a 40'000 BTUs gas stove (single burner).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 53 minutes ago (3 children)

4 kW induction cooktop should be comparable to a 40'000 BTUs gas stove (single burner).

So this is 4000 watts? What household circuit can support that?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 35 minutes ago

A random Better Homes and Gardens article clocks a 2000 square ft (185 square meters) home with central air conditioning at nearly 19,000 watts.

https://www.bhg.com/home-improvement/electrical/how-to-check-your-homes-electrical-capacity/

So I think most homes could handle that in general, but I don't know about specific wiring requirements to handle that kind of power draw from just the kitchen. So do these things require that level of retrofit?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 minute ago

Idk about my math but most American household circuits require stoves to be on a (220V) dual phase 18 amp circuit. Which should output around 8kW (18A * 220V)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 minutes ago (1 children)

Plenty can. Just need a 240v 30a outlet or higher

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 minutes ago

Which isn't a thing in the states anyway.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 47 minutes ago (2 children)

Oh, and FWIW - if you live somewhere with an unstable power grid, a natural gas or LP stove will continue to function when the power is out, albeit you'll need to light it manually.

This is only true on the simplest (or older) gas stoves. Most models these days have all sorts of electronics, including features to prevent gas leaks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 minutes ago

Mine works when the power is out. The only electrical part is the starter.

Also, I can heat my house (well, keep the temps above freezing) with my gas fireplace. I just have to manually click the pezioh electric starter.

OTOH, when the power is out, I can't run my stove vent hood, which vents outside and is why I don't worry much about "particulate matter." Never seen a non-externally-vented gas stove; I thought they were against code in the US, but whatever. The fireplace is entirely enclosed and sealed, and vented outside; heat circulation is via a fan that runs air around the heat box - which also doesn't run with power out, making it less efficient. But it still beats having the pipes freeze.

[–] GreatBlueHeron 4 points 37 minutes ago

I also live in an area with frequent power disruption. We have a backup generator. It is more than enough to power the electronics in our propane gas range, but nowhere near enough to power an electric range.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 32 minutes ago (1 children)

It's completely baffling that there are people unironically still defending gas stoves in 2025. There's no discussion to be had on the subject any more, induction is superior and that's final.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 minutes ago

When the power goes out in sub zero temperatures, and your heating does too, it helps to be able to make hot water on the stove to warm up.

Otherwise, yeah induction is better.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

idk - there should be some very clear cancer statistics to back up such a claim between countries like Sweden (<1% gas stoves, all are electric) vs other countries then.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

One cause of cancer like this probably won’t be visible on a national scale, too many other factors come into play that will muddy the data

However, it’s not “idk”, the current science on gas stoves being bad for your health is quite clear. Not just cancer, but also for other lung-related issues like asthma: https://www.cancercenter.com/community/blog/2024/09/are-gas-stoves-bad-for-your-health

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 hours ago

You're right - the report they link to here (Table 2 is good) makes that quite clear.

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.est.2c09289

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

The only thing I know gas stoves to be better at than other methods is traditional wok. But that's hardly a reason to jeopardize your health for.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

You can actually get induction wok thingys.

The induction magnet is bowl shaped, so that when placed in it, the wok is heated all over.

They work, and apparently the really good ones are priced for business kitchens.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 minutes ago

Cool, had no idea this existed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Only if you have the proper high btu burner

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

Exactly this. I went from a cheap gas stove to a nicer induction and my work cooking has improved greatly.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 hours ago (12 children)

Induction is the best, I'll never go back

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 minutes ago

I cannot wait to finish uni and move to a place without a gas stove. The thing is they renoveated the kitchen just before I moved in but they decided to put in a gas stove for whatever reason.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Induction is best in theory, however in practice it's unfortunately often paired with these shitty buttonless capacitive controls that are harder to decipher that hieroglyphics as well as """smart""" features

They do still sell induction stoves with classic dumb buttons but they are either hard to come buy or aimed at professional chefs, which instantly adds two zeros to their price

[–] [email protected] 2 points 37 minutes ago

The interfaces are usually really bad, yes. The technology itself still makes up for this particular shortcoming, but they need to step up their game.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

Mine has simple capacitive controls. Turn it on, higher number is more hotter. Very simple.

Apparently it has other features, not bothered with them.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I read that running an extractor hood mitigates the risk a fair amount. Not completely, but enough that you shouldn’t worry if gas is your only option

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 minutes ago

Many people don't turn the hood on until food itself is creating a lot of vapor because they are usually so noisy. Meaning the hood often helps very little in practice, although in theory you are right.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (9 children)

gas stoves being better or faster than induction is a myth. They have certain specific advantages, but they are actually slower.

If you have 380/400V 16A induction, it's not even close.
But be careful, if you have ceramic coated pans for instance, and you use the high power settings to heat it up, your pans won't last long, as the ceramic may crack because of the fast heat up. We lost 2 pans that way. 😋
We also had a cheap cooking pot, where it developed a crack between the main pot and the apparently cheaply attached heat spreading bottom.
This made the pot sputter because water was collected in the crack when washed.
When I boil eggs, i time it from the moment the water is boiling. But with out new stove, the water boils so fast, I've had to add 2 minutes to the time they boil!!

Our electric kettle is 2.2 kW. But boiling a liter of water on the stove is still more than twice as fast!! Meaning the stove must be putting more than 4.4 kW to the pot, on the smallest cooking spot!!

Obviously that is only possible for 1 spot at a time, I figure the max must be around 6kW combined.

They have certain specific advantages, but they are actually slower.

I can't think of any advantages, gas stoves are slower, they are harder to clean, they give off an insane amount of wasted heat, which is uncomfortable in hot weather, and they noticeably degrade air quality unless you have very good ventilation.

The only possible advantage I can think of, is that you can use cheaper equipment on gas. but not always, because non metal handles tend to get ruined on gas stoves.

All in all induction is superior. 😎

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