It's weird living in a world where people are rescuing our past from the Ministry of Information sponsored Memory Hole.
this post was submitted on 05 Mar 2025
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I hope California, blue states, and Europe all bankroll this into an official Neo-CDC, free of Yarvin's hatred and stupidity.
Europe won't do a thing with these initiatives, at least not in any official manner (what they can do though is to ensure EU web hosters of this stuff aren't feeling the pressure). They've enough to do restructuring their economy and military, all the while also dealing with war and fascism from the east. They won't risk Trump having another tamper tantrum, at least not before the EU and its allies are widely decoupled from the US economy.
Data preservationists are beating back the coming dark age. They're heroes.
And they called us data hoarders!
They're either beating it back or delaying it. I hope it's the former, but I fear it's the latter.
If they screw shit up too much there are already the nerdiest of nerds working on decentralized wireless networks. They'd be slow is heck, but I heard many people prefer web 1.0 over todays' bloated crap anyway.
I was just thinking earlier today: I really, really hope someone is backing up the Library of Congress' stuff, particularly Chronicling America, which has almost every newspaper issue (searchable by text and much more) from 1756 - 1963. Like archive.org -- federal edition, sort of.
Anyway, given how fascists love to erase history, it's precisely the kind of thing I could see them targeting. Particularly if you wanted to erase the fact that, oh, I don't know, your father Fred Trump was arrested at a Ku Klux Klan rally in 1927. That kinda thing.
using GitHub to host our code
I can't possibly think of any way that could backfire.
Microsoft suddenly getting ordered by the DoJ to pull offending projects from github Or Else.
if that happens, people should migrate to gitlab or forgejo. gitlab is a Ukrainian company, and forgejo development is primarily driven by Codeberg in Germany.
people should just automatically push to all three as a backup from the start, tbh
They don’t need to, because git is already decentralized. All the history is usually on everyone’s computers.
Any opinions on gitea? Idk I’ve been using it for about a year and it works nicely
of the gogs family tree it's my middle favorite.
- forgejo
- gitea
- gogs
forgejo gets the edge because of federation. gitea's corporate situation is less than ideal. gogs simply doesn't have the features to be a complete solution
Didn't know that. Thanks for the tidbit of lore. :)
if that happens, people should migrate
Or better yet, they should just go ahead and do so right now. What's the point of picking Github over the other better alternatives anyway?
(i agree entirely, but i have to accept a lot of people just go wherever the most users are)
It's a version control system, not social media!
I get that you're explaining it, not endorsing it, and so this criticism isn't directed at you, but the notion that people would pick Github over Gitlab or Codeburg because of the bandwagon effect is just dumb and weird.
I agree and also don't at the same time. It's coming from a genuine place of you get more driveby contributions on Github than you do Gitlab or Codeberg, but at the same time, people will ultimately go where the projects are, and I think the more open source code we host on Codeberg the more users we'll get on Codeberg, and the more Codeberg users we get the more driveby contributions projects will get on Codeberg. Like I get where an individual project is coming from preferring Github over Codeberg, BUT where we are currently where everyone is preferring Github over codeberg is ultimately just us strangling ourselves. I think when Microsoft bought GitHub and a lot of projects moved to Codeberg, and then again when Microsoft started pushing Copilot hard... IDK, I guess what I'm getting at is WHAT IS THE HOLD UP PEOPLE! Move your projects to Codeberg! And when you're looking for solutions to problems you're having, look on Codeberg first. For one thing, it's actually lowkey nicer to use at this point, and it does have enough traction that you should get enough driveby contributions to be worth your while
I find it weird that one can sign in to codeberg with a github account.
I was not aware of that! Hopefully it encourages drivebys!
Gitlab was created by a ukranian and dutch developer originally but today Gitlab stock is traded on Nasdaq and its HQ is listed as San Francisco (wikipedia). I use it selfhosted but I don't think gitlab.com can be seen as European anymore.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I think you might be right for the simple reason that (based on that same source and my presumption of their names ) all the C* people seem to be American as well.
Dammit really need to stop setting up HQs in US. It's the same for archive.org and wikipedia.
I had no idea that Gitlab was Ukrainian.
makes sense why it "just fucking works", unlike github.
Is this like that meme about houseplants and potatoes?
Github - aww, someone called out API too much I guess I'll just die
Gitlab - I am in a fucking warzone and you don't see that stopping me.
You mean a company with deep ties to Elon Musk's biggest personal enemy Sam Altman?
No way. I'm sure it will be fine, just like the CDC website
Good to see people taking "information demands to be free" seriously.
Hosting in Europe is the Cherry on top.
Can this be made into a .zim for Kiwix?