Because those previous impeachments really changed things...
For the millionth time, using the system to attempt to fix said system will never change a thing.
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Because those previous impeachments really changed things...
For the millionth time, using the system to attempt to fix said system will never change a thing.
Last time, he was out of office, so it was a little gray. This time they don't have that excuse.
But they also aren't going to convince the Republicans to go along with it this time either, and even if they do, we're still stuck with Vance, another anti-democracy turd.
The first impeachment was December 2019. You're right, though. The system is stacked heavily in his favor right now, and getting Trump out isn't going to make everything magically better. Vance and Mike Johnston are next in line, which... isn't good.
Yes and no. They system is designed for sustainability. However it's been 3 elections since we had a chance of fixing it. We had a chance with Obama. But now they have the Supreme Court and gerrymandering. It's an uphill battle.
The system does not work against those that simultaneously run the system and do not recognize the system
We need this to be 25 million
250,001 actually!
And my axe!
I also signed the petition.
Im sure your democracy is as strong as ever and will fend off this threat.
Fucking idiots.
Americans still being gullible idiots thinking this will do anything while bad actors a running rampant 🤦♂️
This time it's really really urgent tho. What a clown country
They could have 1,000,000 signatures. The result will be always the same when the man you are trying to impeach personally owns the military.
If you were in the military would you follow orders that are unconstitutional? Which is to say, an order that requires you to suppress the American people?
I would hope service people would see what is happening and say no. But that's a hope more than anything.
UCMJ obliges members of the armed forces to not obey unlawful orders. Problem is they don't teach law when you're in, and some of this shit can get awfully complicated, and that's excepting the mountains of propaganda.
That's being said, we are fortunately not yet seeing the military of the US being used to suppress American citizens. But maybe tomorrow!
Phew, there's still time! Tomorrow's Sunday though and I usually go shopping. Maybe next week?
Do they not realize who has the Senate and House? It'll be like the first term all over again, where Republican will kiss his ass to protect him.
Oh my God I am so tired of this back-and-forth.
When people say it’s not strategically sound to impeach, everyone says the Democrats have no spine. Now they’re calling to impeach, and it’s “what’s the damn point?” Are you fucking kidding me?
They’ve never had the votes to convict at literally any time. Should they never have gone for impeachment in the past? When is it acceptable to? Where is the line?
The last potus was directly responsible for Clarence Thomas. Half of the dem fuck heads don't even have the decency to blow smoke up their constituents asses. There has never been an easier time to be one. There's nothing they can do and every second they do nothing their portfolios get a little bit better.
I would trade a million of your signatures for a trumpers thoughts and fucking prayers every day of the week. At least trumpers are trying to destroy themselves. Dems and liberals are self-serving, self-preserving capitalist cancer.
Yep. Impeach because it’s the right thing to do, and get all the Repugs on record defending the Traitor Trump.
If we impeach, it needs to be Trump and Vance together.
That just gets us the guy who tells his son when he's watching porn
How else would you be able to jerk off together?
Serendipity makes my point for me.
I can think of few crimes higher than making all our allies distrust us.
0.07% of the american population against a senate and house fully in control by the Trump Party.
This is the kind of action that will get stuff done! Internet petitions that have almost never had any meaningful effects outside of literally millions of people signing petitions for extremely tiny issues that have no effect on anyone in power. That will change their minds!
I'm sure the Republicans in control of the House and Senate will get right on that. I can't roll my eyes hard enough.
When Nixon was forced by the Supreme Court to produce the tapes (as opposed to the transcripts he had offered), shortly thereafter, once the tapes had been reviewed, it became clear that Nixon would be impeached.
A delegation of Republican representatives went to Nixon at the White House (several of whom were some of his most ardent supporters)and informed him that if he did not resign the house would vote to impeach, and the senate was likely to convict.
Back then there was a much stronger lean towards country over party, as well as a sense that facts existed. We also had a president, who - despite being evil in so many other ways - had actually read the constitution, and believed in the founding principles of the nation.
There were many heroes during Watergate. Among them, Sam Ervin (Democrat) in the Senate, and Howard Baker (Republican) - chair of the Senate Watergate Committee.
Soon, Trump will do something that will ensure that none of the current Republican house members can get reelected. Once that happens, support will collapse in the house and he will be impeached, convicted, and removed from office.
They will then put the couch-fucker on a very short leash, since he does not command nearly the kind of frothing, insane, mindless, idolatry that the Orange Cheeto currently enjoys.
At the end of the day, impeachment is a political act. Put all the GOP house reps in peril for the midterms and they will drop Krasnov like hot rock.
You assume there will still be real elections. There has still been no investigation of the odd increase in bullet ballots (just president votes) in swing areas. Elon and Musk continue unimpeded while Republicans are avoiding their town halls to speak to it.
Yeah, I think the bullet ballots percentage anomaly is the smoking gun. I think at least a couple of the swing states will quietly investigate. Nothing would please me more than to see their scheme exposed. People really have no idea how few ballets and precincts needed to be compromised for them to have gotten the swing states this time. REALLY close in so many. 7.5% bullet ballots in swing states compared with more like 1% in the no swing states right next door.
I love how Trump is suing Ann Selzer, the pollster for the Des Moines Register in Iowa, because she put out a poll showing Harris winning Iowa. He’d better be careful. If she goes back and validates her poll, she should be able to pinpoint exactly which precincts produced the anomalies.
We need to keep the visibility up on that.
Good for the American people.
Ultimately won't matter. Even if he's impeached (again) he has too many bootlickers/supporters/fear mongers in the Senate to convict him. It simply won't happen.
Impeachment lost all meaning long long ago
No, it didn't, in the same way that the existence of liars doesn't diminish the meaning of truth.
Half of Americans are fascist partisans. That sucks, but it doesn't mean ethics don't matter, and pretending otherwise is pathetic.
What impeachment is, at it stands, is futile. No system can function as intended when half of the people in it are bad faith actors.
250k that's it?
250k have signed this particular petition to date - not "only 250k Americans want to kick Trump out". The effort began less than two months ago - it's a start.
I haven't seen the petition. I would absolutely sign it.