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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

This is Funny if you think about it because Modern Pizza originates from the USA and Pasta from China

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago

As someone who's lived Italy, this does sound like something an Italian would say lmao

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

Agreed, Bosnian and Croatian food are the only proper food :3

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

According to this map I should probably be dead.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

Tbh I find Italian culinary traditions underwhelming. Like they just gave up 10 minutes in, no work at all because it's too hot.

To be fair, the further from coastline, the better the Italian cuisine - more herbs, more variety, more complex recipes (e.g Ligurian braised rabbit)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I saw a really good documentary recently, hell if I can remember the name. It covered actual Italian historical dishes. They were explaining that most of the really old stuff was region specific. Like one dish in one area had nothing to do with the same dish in another area. They actually went through kind of a food reimagining or Renaissance after one of the wars. Basically they were saying that pizza as it is now is not that old. Prior to the rush into America they had flatbreads that kind of but didn't really approximate pizza, and it wasn't until the Italian Americans repatriated that they started honing what they consider they current concept of pizza.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

The concept of nations as well as their culture and cuisine are relatively young. Medieval cuisine was both highly local and also quite similar across a shared biome.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

Italians have a couple of great hits and a lot of duds.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I'm Dutch and I think this map is completely unfair. It overrates our food significantly

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The Dutch chartered an enormous company to trade spices, but never used them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago

That's just common knowledge, dealers never dip into their own product.

[–] Lininop 1 points 6 hours ago

This tracks, every Italian I've ever met has been a complete snob about food.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago

I'm a little disappointed that the center is a knife and fork instead of a hand pinching fingers together to make a point

[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago

u wot m8?

We've got Greggs Sausage Rolls.

All you've got is pasta and tomato sauce for every meal, and think different shaped pasta makes it a different dish!

That's like thinking beans on toast is different if you put it on different shaped bread.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago

I second this map.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic 17 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

I feel like France, Greece, and Spain are gonna have some pretty strong objections.

RIP Portugal

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You know what's strange. I can buy French cuisine, Mexican cuisine, Canadian cuisine, I can even find elements of UK in Germany

I'm not even aware that Spain has a cuisine. I just looked up the entry on Wikipedia and I've never seen any of those dishes really.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Chorizo, tapas, and paella are all pretty popular and well known.

I should have included Greece on that list, it's food is more well know in North America.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I assumed chorizo was Mexican, I've actually made that before.

I've had paella but it was on a cruise ship in the Caribbean.

I've heard of tapas but I've never actually seen it.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic 3 points 6 hours ago

I'm not really an expert.
Tapas are like dim sum, a category of sharable appetizers, rather than a specific dish

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Not from someone from the South-East of France.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic 1 points 6 hours ago

Cannes and Nice are apparently the only places in France with real food 🤣

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

Food in Portugal is delicious

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I wholeheartedly support culinarily disrespecting Italians, honestly.

Dudes trying to convince us that they are presenting ancient traditions when their precious dishes are invented in like the 60s

[–] [email protected] 14 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Dudes trying to convince us that they are presenting ancient traditions

Ancient traditions

Look inside

Post Columbian exchange vegetables

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Post-columbian fruit is underselling just how new at least posts of it are. Carbonara was invented by US soldiers in the 1940s, literally made using bacon and powdered egg from their rations.

Tiramisu is unclear, but 1939 seems to be the earliest of the possible candidate, the earliest actual document is from 1969.

Pizza as we know it today was reimported from the US.

I love Italian food, but it's much less traditional than people pretend.

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[–] [email protected] 107 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I knew an Italian exchange student that kept whining that nothing tasted good and nothing tasted as it should up here in Scandinavia. Then another exchange student (from Thailand I think) got tired of him and told him ~"the rest of the world isn't your mother" and it was a literal moment of realisation for this dude.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

Wow, a rare good tasteful Your Mom remark

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

the rest of the world isn't your mother

Nah but it's way closer than it should be

Zing!

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