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If I never have to see another "F🍁ck Trudeau" flag again, it will be too soon. (self.canada)

submitted 18 hours ago by JohnnyCanuck to c/canada

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Nothing says "classy" like flying that flag.

Good L🍁ck Trudeau! (But also, don't let the door hit you on the way out...)

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[–] TheFeatureCreature 113 points 18 hours ago (11 children)

Trudeau will be remembered for many things

including all the conservatives that wanted to fuck him.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 13 hours ago

Just finding out I'm a raging conservative. Oh god, I need to sit down... On his lap...

[–] ImplyingImplications 42 points 17 hours ago (8 children)

I loved that the original attack ad they had when he was first running for Prime Minister was that he was too young and handsome to be a leader.

[–] veeesix 21 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Nice hair, though

[–] chuck 13 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I guess that's why the cons dumped o toole he had no hair

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[–] BenVimes 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I'll also always remember how the Liberals pulled a judo-reverse on the Conservatives by turning their main line of attack back against them. I knew from the moment I saw that ad with Trudeau on the escalator that the Liberals would win.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

Oh, do you have a link? I'm not Canadian but that sounds interesting.

E: Nvm found it.

[–] corsicanguppy 1 points 7 hours ago

found it.

Ah. YOW. Know it well.

[–] BenVimes 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

That's the one.

I don't know if my memory of that era comports with actual history, but this is how I remember it playing out:

It looked like the Conservative attack ads were going to win the election for them again, just as they had against Dion and Ignatieff. They were ahead and gaining in the polls, and the Liberals seemed to have no response. The slogan was, "Trudeau: he's just not ready."

Then the polls stabilized for a few days, and the Liberals released that ad. The polls started rapidly reversing, and the Liberals decisively swept into power. I don't think I even saw another, "he's not ready," attack ad from the Conservatives again after that.

EDIT: One can debate how much of an effect that ad had, and whether Trudeau's actions matched it's promises, but for me it will always stick out as a good bit of political strategy.

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[–] AlolanVulpix 13 points 18 hours ago (16 children)

And for letting us down on proportional representation: [email protected]

[–] corsicanguppy 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

And for letting us down on proportional representation: [email protected]

You only think they were going to choose the most complex voting scheme out there.

[–] AlolanVulpix 1 points 7 hours ago

Can you explain more? What voting scheme did you have in mind?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Saw a f🍁CK Trump flag in Canada the other day and had to do a double take. I don't like Trump, but I still don't like the flags.

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[–] cecilkorik 26 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Most of the flags around here have already been swapped for "Fuck Trump".

[–] [email protected] 9 points 13 hours ago

Glad to see civil discourse making a come back.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I'm trusting he'll lead the country in the right direction through all this tariff nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

By leaving the office

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[+] [email protected] -37 points 18 hours ago (7 children)

Did you just put a conservative in power? Have you learned nothing from us in the US.

[–] JohnnyCanuck 44 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Not yet, we still have hope it won't happen.

Our system is a bit different. We elect a party and that party has a leader. The leader of the elected party is the Prime Minister. The leader can step down and the party stays in power and selects a new leader, who then becomes Prime Minister. Trudeau stepped down and his party selected Carney to replace him, so we have a new prime minister and maintain a centrist government. (Centrist to us, left wing to the US.)

We can also have elections at any time, either by choice of the party in power, or forced by the opposition parties if they have enough seats in the government. Our current party in power, The Liberals, don't have a majority, so they've been maintaining power by making deals with a left wing party (the NDP or New Democratic Party). Liberal + NDP is one seat or so from a majority right now, so they've been finding additional support from other parties. This has actually worked out pretty well, as it has forced the government to be a little more proactive and given the left a good amount of power. There is always the threat of losing power and having to make different parties happy.

If the NDP (or others) decide they don't like Carney, they can force an election and then we will have the chance of getting that Conservative government you were worried about. Most likely they will wait a bit to see how things are going before doing that because their worst fear is forcing an election and ending up in a worse position (a Conservative majority.) If you hear that Canada has a new Prime Minister named Poilievre in the next year, you'll know we just ran into the same shit you guys did.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Thanks for explaining that. It sounds like a better system in that you can force an election at any time. I'm jealous of that right now.

I know the PR and propaganda machines have been going after Canada. I really hope you guys don't get forced or go willingly down the same road as us. I'll be looking for that Poilievre person to not be in the running.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You can force an election for a minority government. If one party has a majority, it can go for a while, more then four years

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Okay, I'm not jealous of the 4 year part unless it has some hidden benefit. Maybe moving that slow keeps it stable?

[–] dom 9 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

It wouldn't be a problem if we had proportional representation. In Canada, a party can get a majority government with a minority of the voting population due to how it's calculated. This often means low voter turnout because a large number of people feel their vote doesn't count.

[–] corsicanguppy 1 points 7 hours ago

It wouldn’t be a problem if we had proportional representation

Is there nothing it can't do? (when all you have is a hammer, everything's a nail)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago

So you have the same problem as us. I think in the olden days, our corrupt politicians and elites colluded with the world's corrupt politicians and elites, and had a good laugh how they set it up in their favor.

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[–] SGforce 23 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Election hasn't happened yet but Trudeau is stepping down.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, got ya. It hasn't happened yet. Good luck to you fighting our stupid economic wars that we, the US, are certain to lose.

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