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Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk called for respect among allies after a heated exchange between U.S. and Polish officials over Ukraine’s reliance on Elon Musk’s Starlink.

U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio rebuked Polish Foreign Minister Radosław Sikorski for suggesting Ukraine might need an alternative provider, calling him “ungrateful.”

Musk dismissed concerns and insisted Starlink would not be shut off after threatening to do so.

Meanwhile, speculation about a Starlink replacement caused a surge in Eutelsat’s stock.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

It's crazy how the US simultaneously wants the world to depend on them while also treating them like second class Allies. But the moment those allies say it's not worth it and try to form other alliances, the US calls them ungrateful and cries. If you've ever seen or been in a abusive relationship, this is what it looks like on a nation to nation situation

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

US simultaneously wants the world to depend on them while also treating them like second class Allies.

That's a core principle of colonialism: The colony acts as a cheap resource provider and sales market for the colonizer at the same time while having no actual autonomy.

We also can see a similar dynamic in modern globalism where production facilities were moved to countries where labour is cheap. Which is the reason many people call globalism colonialism 2.0.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Quite frankly, if europe wants to cry about being colonies maybe they should've thought before they acted.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

Oh I'm well aware. It's just we need to not fall into the W. E. B. Du Bois trap of speaking down to those who need knowledge but do to no fault of their own don't have the knowledge to understand larger concepts. Put things in the a way that the average individual can understand without treating them as idiots. Everyone understands what an abusive relationship is, and how hard it is for those trapped to get out. Colonialism, globalization, capitalism, etc are tough concepts to grasp when the education system failed you. Target the personal aspects of concepts so even the red hats who were home schooled can connect with. We are in an abusive relationship with capitalism. If you feel on happy with your living, working, and social environment, it's probably not you that's the problem. You are trapped in an abusive relationship with an economic system that was designed to pit you against your friends, family, and neighbors while money that is rightfully yours is taken by those above you.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Donald Tusk has to be a difficult name to have in this tineline.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Comming next: Donald Mramp!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

Was it actually a US-Poland spat?

I thought it was just Musk running his mouth on Twitter as per.

If that's the case I think it's a dangerous game for the wider world to conflate Musk's actions with the US as a whole

Edit: Seems like it was also US official/s taking part. What a wonderful world we live in 🙃

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It was both Musk and Marco Rubio - the "adult in the room" Secretary of State so yeah, it looks like an official stance of the US government.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 hours ago

Oh, in that case I take it back.

God, I hate this timeline!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Not sure what you mean. Everybody knows Musk is the actual President, Trump is just a puppet.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Every time I see the words Secretary of State Marco Rubio I almost do a spit take.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I can only imagine what happens when you see the words, President of the United States Donald Trump.

Your dry cleaning bill must be astronomical.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

You forgot the “J.” DOGE will be efficiencizing you shortly…

[–] Fiivemacs 3 points 8 hours ago (2 children)
[–] adespoton 11 points 7 hours ago

Yeah; Latvia needs to elect an Elon Mump next….

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

PM of Poland.

I guess many Americans haven't heard of him, which is odd given Poland is the first bastion against Russia and a very strong US ally. Well was anyway.

[–] Fiivemacs 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

My polish knowledge starts and stops at 'kurwa bober'

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

You know everything there is to know. If you also admit that Maria Curie-SKŁODOWSKA was Polish and concentration camps German, then we can grant you the title of honorary Pole... But please for the love of God... DO NOT confuse the two.