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Manufacturers are slowly starting to listen to what car journalists and owners have been complaining about for almost a decade: Cramming all the car’s functions into a touchscreen is an inferior solution to having dedicated physical controls for key tasks.

Among the manufacturers known to be switching back to buttons is Volkswagen, whose latest vehicles have gone touch-control-crazy with functions either buried inside a touchscreen menu or relocated to an annoying haptic feedback panel.

We’ve known for a while that Volkswagen was considering putting back some buttons in its cars, but the manufacturer never officially acknowledged this. Now VW’s design boss, Andreas Mindt, has admitted to Autocar that this approach was a mistake and that the automaker is backtracking on this trend.

“From the ID.2all onwards, we will have physical buttons for the five most important functions—the volume, the heating on each side of the car, the fans and the hazard light—below the screen,” Mindt told Autocar. He added, “They will be in every car that we make from now on. We will never, ever make this mistake anymore. On the steering wheel, we will have physical buttons. No guessing anymore. There's feedback, it's real, and people love this. Honestly, it's a car. It's not a phone.”

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[–] [email protected] 166 points 4 days ago (12 children)

Great. Do away with the unnecessary telemetry next.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I used to work with big companies collecting IoT data. 90% were collecting telemetry without knowing why. Or having business goals they could easily achieve in other ways, without hoovering everything and violating our privacy.

The rest were doing it so they could sell it to data brokers and make money.

None of them were trying to push privacy as a competitive advantage.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (3 children)

None of them were trying to push privacy as a competitive advantage.

This is why I don't have a new car. I'm hoping I get one where I have access to my own data (in eg. Home Assistant), and the manufacturer doesn't.

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[–] [email protected] 112 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Nothing to do with the euroNCAP guidance that came out earlier in the year, of course.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Nah I'm sure that carmakers being forced to do this only factored in a little bit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

Only because buttons are cheaper than fines of course.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I’ve been assured that tHe MaRkEt will solve everything, though!

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Great, now unfuck the car I already have

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Would be hilarious if they recalled them and superglued buttons over the touchscreen interface.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 days ago

Glad they return to the old proven ways. It’s so much safer to have proper buttons and dials.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nah you should make the steering wheel also a touchscreen, that would be smart. 🙃

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Swipe left to go left. Swipe right to go right. Pinch to accelerate. Say in a clear voice "Please begin braking" to decelerate.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Display ads in the meantime.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 days ago

Step 1: Make insanely stupid design decision to save $2

Step 2: Sell reversal as an upgrade

[–] SplashJackson 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Touch screens in cars has always been a fuckin' stupid idea, and I say that with the sincerest hope that nobody died because they had to look at the touchscreen to know where to tap to change the radio station because commercials came on

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Someone has died due to a touchscreen. A woman had a Tesla which you put in park forwards or reverse with a touchscreen. She’d always had trouble with it and got it wrong and reversed into a pond. That meant the power went out so she couldn’t open that door. To get to the emergency escape handle you have to remove the speakers in the doors. So she drowned.

The kicker? Her husband was a millionaire and he immediately put out a statement absolving Tesla and musk from any wrongdoing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Billionaires, both of them, I think.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This will be another nice side effect of Tesla shitting the bed. They were the ones that started this trend and now that they are out of fashion, it will become unfashionable again.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Whoever thought touch button for blinking signs is a good idea 😆

So many Teslas blinking wrong on the streets now…

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago (9 children)

honestly, I'm all for buttons on phones too, I miss my sideout keyboard.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (8 children)

I am too young and missed this era of phones, but personally I don't like the idea of slide out keyboards. They seem like they would be very prone to dirt clogging it up. Would it even be possible to get an IP68 rating with a slide out keyboard?

The one phone feature I miss most is the alert slider from the OnePlus 5T I had. The 3 position switch is so intuitive when it comes to putting the phone on vibrate or mute. It sucks that no other phones have it, as I vowed never to buy a OnePlus phone again due to them never selling phones officially in my country. That, the increase in price, the trend towards more mainstream conformity, and the software deficiencies really soured my opinions of OnePlus.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

But why can we not have button phones as well? I miss tactile feedback.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago (10 children)

Now wait a second! Hold on! Let's get one thing straight here......

.......buttons should also return to phones.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

I'd settle for reasonable ports

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Finally saw a VW Buzz on the streets- I fell in love instantly. Not sure of the specs but I think she's mighty pretty and it makes me want to load up my band and do a cross country trip with a fun montage sequence.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Postal service PostNL uses them, so I happen too see them from time to time.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Whoever thought touchscreens were a good idea for a console needs to be shot

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

They are grat for things that benwfit from havibg flexible touch anywhere interaction like maps.

They suck for anything you want to touch without looking away from the road, like temp controls.

Honda still including buttons and knobs for climate controls was a huge factor for my last purchase. A few brands were instantly rejected because they had climate controls in the touch screen and I had already hated that experience from rentals and my in law's cars.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago

The world is healing

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is incredible news because that means my future GTI will have buttons.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

It's incredible it took them this long, considering how obvious it is. But good - it's nice to see at least one thing getting less and not more shitty for once, however tiny.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I dare say that that part of the reason behind this decision is that they are also required to meet safety standards.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

No it's the only reason they are coming back, if they cared they wouldn't have got ridden of the buttons in the first place

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hyundai and now VW? Who's next?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago

Most of them, probably. It's a new requirement in EU to get 5/5 stars safety rating.

That's also why it's specifically 5 features - that's the bare minimum.

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