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You know, personally, I don't think the rumours of Trump being an active foreign agent instead of "just" a narcissist grifter are useful, because they can be used to argue that things weren't already pretty borked before in the status quo.... (and I think they are wrong, personally)
But I do have to admit - if I was a foreign agent wanting to destroy the US and its influence in the world, I would basically do exactly what he is doing.
My college degree focused on the collapse of the USSR and the US diplomatic response to it. I studied a lot of Soviet and Russian foreign policy. If Donald Trump is not a Russian asset he weirdly backs every single position you would expect a Russian asset to have.
refusing to speak negatively of Putin in front of millions during the debate should've been a pretty clear wakeup call
"He's a good man, strong man" and every red hat cheered. You dumb mother fuckers.
He's in Putin's pocket for sure. You remember the closed door meeting with him and Putin his first time in office? Putin came out looking smug af and Trump looked like he'd just seen the ghost of his dead dad. Trump was best mates with Epstien and famously can't keep it his pants. My bet is that Putin has footage of him fucking a minor and is threatening to release it unless Trump toes the line.
Honestly, given the cult-like obsession of Trump followers, I can't even imagine a video like that making much of an impact on them. Sadly...
I think he's inept, stupid, and doesn't have a plan or idea about what he's doing. Tariffs, eg, are the polar opposite of what he claims.
His puppeteers, however? They're just letting him run wild, destroying everything he touches, because they have the wherewithall to withstand the damage.
And they are all making $$$. Insiders make out like crazy when the economy crashes, buy the low and hold. Open a for-profit prison. Get shady government contracts. Get the President to do a commercial for your cars in front of the White House. And on and on.
If conservatives could comprehend numbers, they'd be real upset.
How mean, if they could read, they'd be pissed...
I think they would demand data from the first term.
His constituents really need to understand that he doesn't care. He's willing to tank the economy b/c he and his rich friends can afford to weather that storm. In fact, it'll be a buying at discount opportunity for them. The vast majority of that base is absolutely not those ppl. They chose wrong, and I hope they'll learn.
I hope this doesn’t sound too insane given that currently this is “good news” or at least good metrics for us: But I often worry about using the stock market as a metric for anyone notable.
For instance, I picture a future where a politican pushes hard for increases to minimum wage…and the stock market tanks because “free labor is ruined”. There are some bubbles where it really should tank and I just worry that we’d be excusing it then, and not now.
Granted: It is my belief that there’s no bubbles now and that Biden handed us a working system - one that Trump is throwing wrenches into. I just think after the GME fiasco, we shouldn’t necessarily trust the stock market as a perfect system run by level-headed people.
I suppose what I see here is a way of describing the result of what I think we all know the cause is. Yes it's a small glimpse of an incomplete picture, and shouldn't stand up to debate by itself - but it stands with the backdrop of all Trump's public aggression to friendly countries.
They should've added Trump 2016 too, dunno what would it look like but omitting stuff isn't great
So even with less dementia in 2016 Trump still couldn't beat a Democrat.
I thought you had drawn it in with a sharpie. Lol
I know it's standard, but the y-axis is shifted significantly. This representation makes the numbers look a lot more severe than reality.
Do you not have the ability to take a vote of no confidence in the US? Or are you.just stuck with it for 4 years and he can do whatever?
They have an impeachment process which they tried a few years back twice but didn't work. It is like black magic, a whole lot of mumbo jumbo for literally nothing.
Impeachment doesn't seem like it actually does anything. It's like an official slap on the wrist.
Maybe the laws were written back when politicians had a sense of shame and they just assumed that an impeached president would resign.
Exactly.
The US system has bunch of things that don’t have explicitly defined penalties, because just the act itself was so shameful that it itself was the punishment.
But now they have a president with zero shame and zero morals - the processes don’t work.
Impeachment DOES have a defined penalty if found guilty
But the chances of being found guilty by the cult of bootlickers Trump has in Congress is slim to none.
It is a 2 part process. If you think of it like a criminal offense, impeachment is a charge. Then the Senate convicts. He caught 2 charges and the Senate voted him innocent.
So long as he holds at least 33% support in the Senate, he's safe.
50% in Congress for bringing the articles (charges). 67% of Senate to convict
My point exactly. US politics have become so divided that a sitting president would never be found guilty by his own party members, which would be necessary for conviction considering how the two parties always get near-equal amount of representatives. The system is stacked so that an impeachment will never have any effect on a sitting president.
I’ve never seen a graph so metaphorically and literally apt.
Story of his life. At no point ever has DJT not been a loser. Such a failure of a human being, and the world will be much better once he exits it.
Saw a great video of his approval numbers and he is underwater compared to every other president for this soon in. His only competition, and President he still comes in 2nd worst to depending on the topic, is himself from his first term. 🤣🤣
I realize the title is rhetorical, but just a reminder that AB not only reversed their support for the Bud Light campaign after just a few weeks of fascist bigot whining, they also fired the advertising manager responsible.
All over a single can of beer.
You probably can't buy beer regularly without giving them some of your money, but let's not forget what spineless cowards they are. (Just like Target.)
Drink local, fuck InBev
I don't give them a nickel. Every beer I drink is brewed by someone I know. Even the commercial beers.
I remember how a webstream of a lettuce was set up for Liz and she got kicked out faster than the lettuce on the webstream became rotten.
We need to start a trump lettuce stream!
Needs to be an orange, surely.
I've often heard people describe the stock market as a graph of rich people's feelings. Looking at this, if that was true? This is the most relatable the 1% have been in a century.
Edit: Yeah I know, folks. I did say if.
Meh. Really rich people are so fucking diversified that it doesn’t matter to them what the hell the stock market does on a 4-year scale. They’ll benefit from other assets and wait out the storm, buying equities when others are selling. Shit, even upper middle-class people can often do this without sweating too much.
I watched this video essay by Benn Jordan on American Capitalism that suggests the ultra wealthy are trading their net worth for control. Companies don't want to make more money, they want to have more control over your life. They'll buy out every competing company and give out their products or services at a loss even if it means losing a billion dollars a year with no plan to turn a profit anytime soon. They do it with the goal of becoming the only company that provides something people rely on.
Musk's net worth has dropped $100 billion but he now controls what government programs get funding and who gets government jobs. He traded his net worth for control.
Obama 2013 doesn’t really make any sense. He was already president, so nothing changed. 2009 is probably much worse cause of Bush’s recession.
It's important to note that Trump is responsible for what's happening. While Obama was given the financial crisis on his lap because of things out of his immediate control.
100%. Neither is a good comparison, really. Trump 2017 vs Trump 2025 might be the best comparison. But that also implies he was responsible for 2017, which he wasn’t.
Yeah, other presidents have ups and downs and usually it's nearly a coincidence, good luck or bad on their part.
Trump absolutely is responsible for current economic conditions, with no ambiguity.
Obama 2009 looks about the same, maybe a bit stronger over 100 days. The market collapse happened in the final months of the Bush presidency, and it was just about at the bottom as Obama came into office.
To have a number as bad as Trump II, you have to go back to Bush's first term (in general the Bush graph is pretty bad, barely managing to make it back up to break-even for a few months before the 2008 collapse).
Would be interested in seeing the full 4 year terms as well
I wish every magat in the world would realize what a significant marker this is!!!
The issue is that you can kick him out. You must keep him for at least 4 years...