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Summary

The US tourism industry faces a major decline as harsh immigration policies deter visitors.

High-profile detentions of Western travelers have led to a forecasted 9% decrease in visits, reversing a previously expected 5% rise, and risking a $64 billion loss.

Germany and the UK updated travel advisories following detentions of citizens without clear visa violations.

Canadian tourism also dropped significantly amid tariff threats. Denmark and Finland warned transgender travelers about entry issues.

Experts cite anti-immigrant rhetoric and unpredictable enforcement as key deterrents.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Why even go visit the US? There's nothing worthwhile to visit. And fatty american food I can get in almost any country

[–] Pyr_Pressure 8 points 5 hours ago

Come visit Canada instead (: pretty much the same, but you won't be detained at the border.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Just imagine a legal tourist in the US gets their wallet stolen.

Once, when people in the US had rights, he would contact the police, who would help him getting in contact with the embassy.

Where would the tourist end up nowadays? In Gitmo? Or a South American prison?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

*Central American prison.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

On Friday there was a meeting at work where everyone insisted that they will not go to the US office anymore.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Who in their right mind would want to visit to US at this moment? It's a clusterf*ck and even with a visa and a return ticket you could be detained.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Man, I was going to go to a wedding there that was super important to me but now I'm SO torn.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

That's a shame! I can understand you're torn about it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Sometimes they detain people as they are trying to leave the US.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago
[–] CileTheSane 44 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It's not the "immigration agenda", it's the "illegal captivity and deportations".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 38 minutes ago)

Nah, couldn't be the illegal imprisonment and torture random citizens and tourists have been experiencing.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 hours ago

None of the researchers in my lab go to conferences in the US anymore (there is remote participation since covid).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

The thing that sucks is that the USA is awesome, it had great nature, great cities and good food / people.

The orange dipshit can't take that away.

That said, only visit / give your money to blue states, that's what I'm doing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

good food / people

The rich, you mean?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

Depends what you get them from though. The ones in Florida are just leathery

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

The one thing that really came home to me traveling in the US was how unbelievably different different parts of it are. If you were an alien or otherwise didn't know where the borders of countries were you would not believe that Florida and DC could possibly belong to the same country they're so completely different in culture.

I honestly think that's part of the problem the US has, they only have two parties and that's nowhere near enough diversity to cover all of the different kinds of cultures the US has. I have to imagine people in North Dakota have completely different priorities to people in California. Yet there's absolutely no political recognition of that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Not just political but cultural, most of the great planes states were borne as nations during the height of the Cold war (the dust bowl kinda stalled/reset a lot of progress) which seems to have fucked them up weirdly. A lot of Americans can't seem to move past the fiction of a unified culture meaning they can't actually work within the reality of cultural and national differences. The United States isn't a nation it's 50+ nations in a trenchcoat descended from a shit tonne of different cultures and nations.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

You're absolutely right. The USA is so huge and diverse people don't even realize.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

50% of U.S. tourists come from Canada and Mexico.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

Not anymore, Canada has its elbows up.

[–] johncandy1812 11 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

What about their threats to a G7 ally? Does that contribute to the dropoff too?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

Ally is doing a lot of heavy lifting here

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago

A 9% reduction seems low. I'm curious to know emigration numbers (I'm getting out of here myself)

[–] [email protected] 30 points 19 hours ago

Is this what Project 2025 wants to happen? I heard 42% of their goals have already been implemented. Do they think that isolationism and going back to unilateral, strong armed foreign policy will work? And I thought the Nazis were really stupid...oh wait...

[–] [email protected] 60 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Look, I've been to the states a good 7 or 8 times and I'm really very fond of the place and the people generally. That includes the, hands down, best summer of my life on a college visa.

I will not be going back there until shit calms down. I just can't gamble on the notion of spending weeks in a cold, overly bright shithole cell on the whim of anyone on the way through just for a holiday when I can spin over to any country in Europe and just get a smile and a "Welcome" from the border security on my way in.

It just wouldn't be a rational choice.

edit: I just want to add in that the EU pumps an enormous amount of money on the Erasmus scheme. If you're not in the know the idea is to get kids in college in one country to do a year of the course in another country in Europe. The only real goal of this is to make people realise that they're just like everyone else in Europe so we never have an internal war again and it is (along with a few other bits) the best money the EU spends IMO.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I will not be going back there until shit calms down.

Don't expect it for a long time. You talk about the Erasmus to teach people they're just like everyone else to prevent an internal war.

Here in the states, I honest to god cannot see how our two sides can come to a peaceful resolution and that terrifies me.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

There is no means to a peaceful resolution when one side actively dreams of genociding or enslaving half the other side

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Hell, they want to enslave a chunk of their own side. Shouldn't be long until it's illegal to be too poor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

I feel like there is a /s I missed. It's already illegal to be poor here. Don't have a house/apartment to sleep in? Crime.

Can't pay taxes? Crime.

Wanna stay warm by burning a Tesla? Crime.

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