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ICE requests Cornell student who sued Trump administration to ‘surrender’ to immigration authorities (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 23 hours ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Summary

ICE demanded that Momodou Taal, a Cornell PhD student and UK-Gambia dual citizen, surrender
after he sued the Trump administration over executive orders targeting foreign students in pro-Palestinian protests.

Taal, backed by the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, seeks to block deportation.

The request came soon after his lawyers sought a restraining order. Critics call the move unprecedented and politically motivated.

Taal fears arrest and deportation, while two other plaintiffs, both US citizens, claim the crackdown violates free speech rights on campus.

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[–] floofloof 75 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

“Lawyers at the so-called Justice Department made this request to his attorneys within hours of us having asked the court to stop them from doing precisely that,” Lee told the Guardian. “It’s very difficult to explain how unprecedented this is.

“This is something that should shock everybody. The most fundamental right in a democracy is the right to seek redress for grievances against the government,” Lee added. “God knows where they would send [Taal], simply because he decided to access the federal courts with American citizen colleagues to challenge whether what Trump is doing is legal or not.”

The timing is designed to send a very clear message that anyone criticizing Trump is risking imprisonment and/or deportation. And we are hearing more stories now about officers asking people for their views on Trump at the border, and searching people's phones for anti-Trump sentiment. It's remarkable how quickly US law enforcement has jumped onto the dictatorship bandwagon.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 20 hours ago

Remarkable?

Law Enforcement has always been pro-authoritarian, since it's inception in the US at least.

They expect you to obey, or die. Particularly if you don't look or do what they think you should.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Of fucking course it’s politically motivated. He’s seeking protection because he is being hunted by a corrupt traitor masking as a “politician”. The politics ARE the motivation. God damn almighty these people are fucking stupid.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Don't worry, liberal media is going to save the day here by passive voicing genocide and offering comfort to fascists being "unfairly criticized" so they can remain fair and balanced. The revolution will be televised, as they always say.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

Anything else would simply be improper!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

God damn almighty these people are fucking stupid.

You know, I was about to go on about how they aren't stupid, they're cowards, because they fully know what you say is true, but they are too scared to say things out loud because then they'd be a target, OR because they believe in "the moral high road" and "believe the best in people" to a fault and "it wouldn't be proper!" to call a nazi... You know... a nazi.

But then I realized all of that, while possible, is still insanely fucking stupid

So I guess my point is "yeah, and giant fucking cowards to boot"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

It’s amazing how sometimes, it’s the most simple, obvious explanation.

It’s exactly what the GOP wants, the only thing that’s off is that I don’t think even they thought they would be this successful

[–] [email protected] 17 points 19 hours ago

Question: IF he were to surrender, would he be deported to the UK or to a South American prison?

If it's the latter, can he cross into Canada and just go home for his safety?

I'm not saying he should, I'm asking what his options are.

[+] [email protected] -35 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Can you quote where he spouted racist hate speech?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

I know Lemmy doesn't support karma scores for a reason, but in case it helps you decide which people you want to continue to hear from, the commenter you're replying to would have almost -11,000 (negative eleven thousand) karma, were Lemmy to support such a thing.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

You gotta actively try to reach that kinda score, it's almost impressive. You have to go out of your way to be a jackass.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago

You have to go out of your way to be a jackass.

I think you misspelled Conservative.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Is there an app or something that tallies that?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Not that I'm aware of, but Lemmy-compatible fediverse server software like Mbin does calculate a Reputation score for all threadiverse users, including people from Lemmy. I went into a bit more detail about it in this comment. Mbin users can see Reputation scores for other fediverse users, but because this whole system is decentralized, it's only the score as known about by that server, so it's not a complete picture of the "real" score.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Ooh do me next!

Is there an extension that shows account "karma" somewhere? I dont care very much but I would be interested to know how I'm getting along here since there's no notifications for reaching upvote Milestones.

Now that I think about it; I don't get notifications from lemmy at all. Maybe I should look at my settings..

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

You're probably somewhere in the high 600s, but I am estimating. I think the info exists in the backend, but Lemmy deliberately doesn't make it available anywhere because of the things it encourages--stealing and reposting content for karma farming, judging which people are worth talking to by how well they conform to the dominant opinions, etc. Admittedly, that second one is exactly what I used it for earlier, but -11,000 is a lot so I'm not too worried about it.

The scores used to be accessible via the API, so some Lemmy apps used to show them, but ultimately the feature was removed on the Lemmy end, i.e. Lemmy servers no longer provide that data to apps. I'm not aware of any way to see karma totals within the Lemmy interface today.

That said, the threadiverse is made up of more than just Lemmy: you can interact with Lemmy users and vice versa from other federated sites running Mbin, PieFed and eventually Sublinks when that software is ready. I'm not sure about the other two, but Mbin sites support a Reputation count which is the karma equivalent, so it is possible to see a user's Reputation from an Mbin server. Here's a link to your profile as viewed from kbin.earth, a popular Mbin server.

Boring technical "Well actually" stuff: The nature of federation means that the scores visible from remote servers are incomplete: what you're really seeing is the user's Reputation based on posts the remote server knows about. e.g. Somebody looking at your profile from kbin.earth will see your Reputation as 664, but somebody looking at you from fedia.io sees you with 609.

This probably means something pretty simple, like that you comment in more communities followed by kbin.earth users than fedia.io users, so the kbin.earth server has "seen" more of your posts in order to calculate a higher Reputation score. Alternatively, you might have one super unpopular post that fedia.io saw and kbin.earth didn't, which got -56 points. But the first guess is more likely, unless you know otherwise. :P

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago

That's fine, the point was for them to prove what they were claiming. If not for them, for anyone else reading

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 hours ago

He's a protestor for Palestine. He hates Jews and is explicit about it. He wants the genocide of 7 million Jews.

What more is there to say? Do you need an exact quote? "From the river to the sea" is there.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 22 hours ago

The First Amendment applies to everyone and this is clearly a violation of that. Put your hand down, we won't call you again, kid.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago

What racism?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I would argue that immigration is a right, not just a privilege. If people want to be Americans, the government should not be able to stop them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I would argue that it's not, and it's one of few jobs that the government is responsible for.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

You know that the first immigration law in the US was called?

The Asian Exclusion Act.

Immigration control was and always has been about maintaining white racial supremacy.