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[–] [email protected] 63 points 4 days ago (24 children)

Unpopular opinion: unless you regularly haul things, you don't need a truck of any size. Unless you regularly go off-road or are transporting 5+ people and a dog or more, you don't need an SUV. You can rent one of those for the rare times you need it! And in the meantime, you'll save gas money and pedestrian deaths will go down...

[–] DarkSirrush 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I will somewhat disagree with the SUV comment, as my escape counts as an SUV, and I regularly fill it far past a sedan's capacity when I go grocery shopping (the savings from driving 3+hours each way to the nearest Costco far outstrips the cost in gas) and when I go camping.

And, as I camp in a tent, and have kayaks I can strap to the roof, I don't need a truck at all, because my car can get me to every campsite that a truck can get to, often easier than someone dragging a camper can.

Plus, since its a plug-in hybrid, and Canada doesn't burn fossil fuels for power, my fuel efficiency is significantly better than the average sedan in drives under 100km, and breaks even above that.

On a 60km drive, I average 2L/100km, a 100km drive I average 4.6L/100km, and on a 300km drive I average 6.6L/100km (100km/h), 7.5L/100km (110km/h), or 8.8L/100km (120km/h), which is well within what sedans average.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (9 children)

All absolutely valid points and my only counter argument here is that is why wagon sedans exist. Growing up in Poland a wagon was the family hauler bringing all the stuff you mentioned to pretty much anywhere you need. People even haul rvs with the wagons and you’re still smaller and relatively more pedestrian friendly. Hell they even make performance cars in wagon spec like the bmw m3. Not saying that to discredit your point just that there was another option before the suv craze came about

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

...wagons nearly don't exist anymore in the US market, but i concur: hatchbacks, wagons, and minivans are purpose-designed vehicles for the way people use them in the real world, whereas modern trucks and SUVs are overwhelmingly poseur props for families in denial of their suburban utility lifestyle...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Fun fact: Only 1.4% of the cars sold in the US are wagons and of them 72% were Subaru Outbacks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

That's because the Outback is pretty much the only wagon available here that isn't over $100k

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

I've owned two of them!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Oh man, I really wanted a wagon, but being in Canada the only one available that wasn’t a $90k+ Volvo/mercedes/Audi was a Subaru Outback and I absolutely hated the infotainment system in it. I hate not having physical buttons. So we ended up getting a small suv. I really wish they’d bring over some of the wagon options Europe has.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I wish Canada didn't burn fossil fuels for power but as an Albertan I can promise you that we do.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

trailer for hauling and then own whatever you want for driving, a subaru impreza will handle the offroad most people think you need a truck for. If you haul often a van shits on a truck in terms of cargo space, practicality, protection of cargo, ease of loading and carry a trailer while you load or unload. Modern american trucks are just crossovers with a tiny, useless flatbed bought to appear country. Trucks are only for the edge case of construction workers and maintenance crews who have to actually go off road (as in area in the forest where there is no road, not a gravel path a ferrari can drive on without issues). And for serious offroad that requires you to actually carry more than a single chainsaw: unimog.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Fuck people who buy those big beasts, then can’t handle them for shit, and try to park as close to the front door as possible, fucki ng up parking for every other vehicle. Never even trying to park straight…ungh.

Edit: to be fair, i used to own an oversized pick up. Similar but a much much earlier style/model. At the time i regularly traveled forestry roads like, 40 kns into the back country, so i actually needed it. Got rid of it when it was clear i was not going to be going into the field anymore. These do NOT belong in a city.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Every trip in a truck with an empty bed is a waste. Tooling around with stuff in the bed without the intent to deliver/use it at your destination is even worse.

Yet that describes 99.99999% of all pickup truck use in America. Just a huge ass waste of gas and space in parking lots.

Trucks are expensive too! If I were a scam artist I would definitely be targeting people driving shiny pickup trucks with empty beds. Because they definitely aren't practical or realistic people.

Wait: Maybe that's how MAGA started? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (3 children)

That's how you know it's all for show. People casually forget you can rent trucks for 20 dollars a day too. "Oh well I'm glad I have it for towing and moving". Bull. How often do you tow really? And even then I'd expect it to sit at home most of the time. Moving? Once a year. Rent a truck. I go to home Depot and rent theirs when I need it.

Buying a truck like that shows you are way too worried about what people think of you, you have to feel "big", which usually means you're a small man, and probably bad with money.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

People casually forget you can rent trucks for 20 dollars a day too.

Rented a big truck for my move. It was a bitch to drive, cost me 75bucks for 2 hrs (it has the 29.99 in-town advertising plastered on the side) and didn't fit more shit than a rental van of the same price.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Honestly vans are so much better to move with. Can move so much more, and don't have to worry about the rain.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I just looked up the dimensions of that thing and it has 10cm (3inch) shorter bed than mine. How you even manage to pull that off with a truck that big is beyond me.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

For the 3 days out of the year they might actually need such a massive beast they can rent a truck. I remember when I was car shopping and told a "car guy" at work I was looking at a Subaru he got all worked up. He tried to talk me into buying a massive SUV or pickup because they were more macho or some shit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Emotional Support Vehicle

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Put a Ford Focus behind it to show what people actually need.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Too bad the gov blocks smaller pickups from being imported. Practical sized vehicles.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

So that people refocus their goals? fingerguns

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

In the future, cars will be so big that we will need a second, smaller car to drive us to the driver's seat.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I cant actually tell what you drive, it's hidden behind that douchemobile in front.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago

I 'enhanced' and it seems to be a Nissan, aka 'pickup-mobile' for the chicks....

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

Nissan Navara King Cab D40. In the US these are called Frontier.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (8 children)

I remember a time when that Frontier was considered a big truck, especially compared to Rangers and Tacomas.

Now the Rangers and Tacomas are almost as big as the Dodge in this...

ETA: Just noticed you're in Europe. Sorry that 'murican fattism has reached you, I didn't know these compensators existed across the pond.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Mammoth tank vs medium tank

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sorry about your massive penis.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Nice. I'm planning to get a compact pickup soon. The prices are starting to get really steep where I live. It's like $4000+ for a 25 year old truck with 180,000 miles on it.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 days ago (2 children)

we have reached a time when the normal size vehicle is called a compact

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Everything has gone the way of the fast-food soft drink size.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Frontiers are awesome little (relatively) work trucks. I don't ever need to haul people so I ripped out the rear seats and installed shelving for anything I need to keep secure and dry. Big enough bed to throw nasty/oily parts. And a good enough towing capacity for most rental equipment like bobcats and lifts. Basically a half van.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is actually a Navara, which is the European equivalent of the Frontier. As far as I know, it's otherwise the same vehicle, but Frontiers usually come with a 6-cylinder petrol engine, whereas this one has a 4-cylinder turbo diesel. Mine originally only had two seats to begin with, since I preferred the longer bed instead. Ironically, the bed on this monstrosity didn’t seem any bigger than the one on mine.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

Yeah, they're pretty close to the same truck. I would have loved the diesel option, but we're deathly afraid of small displacement diesels in the US.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I did the same when a coworker showed up with an F350 crew cab 6.5ft bed. Lifted, offroad lights, cb antenna, diesel (which is the HD option in the US). He lives in the suburbs and pays laborers for everything. So I plopped my dutiful little Mazda B2300 next to it (Ranger) that regularly hauls a little bit of wood.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ford Ranger 2004 vs 2024 is like Mario before and after mushroom.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

I miss the little Ranger. That thing was the perfect pickup truck (if your market didn't get the actual perfect pickup truck, the Toyota Hilux)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Everyone should get a Honda Element.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Thanks for blinding everyone on the road with your Dodge.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

One for hauling, towing, driving around offroad and onroad and basically doing everything in and the other for taking it to american car meets.

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