Do I remember correctly that trump was elected mainly on improving economy?
this post was submitted on 03 Apr 2025
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That's what I heard people said, but I suspect it was more the anti-immigrant, christian nationalist, white supremacist, misogynist not wanting to out themselves so they said things like the 'price of eggs' or 'the economy' instead of 'I'm scared of everything I don't understand like diversity and worker solidarity' or 'i don't want to be treated the way I treat minorities'.
That's what they kept saying...
Entire year of gains lol
It's just utterly infuriating and miserable. This isn't a Nelson-Ha-Ha.gif moment.
Ordinary Americans will suffer for this. People will lose their homes, their jobs, their lives. And ordinary people in other countries will suffer for it too - job losses for companies who majorly sell to the US are inevitable. Car companies in the UK (Landrover, Aston Martin, Jaguar, etc are already making noises about job-cutting).
And the vastly wealthy will benefit, as they always do, by picking up those bargain basement stocks which will, eventually, become valuable again. And it's the plan. It's always the plan. Transfer wealth from the many to the few. Brexit was a cash grab. Trump is a cash grab.
by picking up those bargain basement stocks which will, eventually, become valuable again.
Everyone can do this. Even if it's only $50. If you have nothing, you gotta start somewhere. I'm investing every penny I can spare right now.
And the vastly wealthy will benefit, as they always do, by picking up those bargain basement stocks which will, eventually, become valuable again.
I don't think that's correct.
Imagine, if you will, an uptick in vandalism on Tesla Cybertrucks. Insurance companies notice and increase the price of insuring them. The used car market price for those vehicles goes down, with fewer people wanting to buy vehicles that are more expensive to insure and are more likely to be vandalized.
Is that price drop a dip that a savvy investor can take advantage of? Is there an investment case for buying used cybertrucks and then hoping that Elon's stink fades? I don't think so. The value of that thing has permanently decreased.
Look to American soybean farming. Trump put tariffs on China in 2018, and China retaliated with tariffs on soybeans, among other products. Brazil stepped in and started exporting a lot of soybeans to China, and maintained that market share even as the tariffs were canceled. Basically, American farmers never recovered. Buying up all that farmland for cheap wouldn't have done anything because the new owners of that land can't benefit from some kind of higher profits from that land.
Sometimes things drop in price because they just become less valuable. I think that's what's happening with American stocks right now, because the damage that is being done is hard to reverse.
2 trillion, so far!
I'm so glad that as a millennial I get to live through so many different historic times.../s
Would you prefer to live through the world wars or the cold war? Or any other time in history?
How many once in a lifetime economic events is this now?
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O'Doyle rules!
"...and right here is where I'm going to manufacture the worst economic crash since the literal Plague."
Mr Miller told me this was a REALLY GOOD IDEA!!!
Looks like he's working towards a fire sale.
To Putin
It all makes sense when you look at it from the perspective that he's doing all this at the direction of Putin to destroy American hegemony in the world.
As bad as the world thinks it's been under Ametican leadership, its better than letting Russia or China run the show.
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Plague massively increased economic situation of peasants in western Europe.
Only in the long run. A lot of them died and suffered horribly first.
Of course, first things need to hit rock bottom for regular people to demand fair treatment.
...and cancelling 500k work visas just few days ago, that should hit the economy too
And everyone being deported as well. Even most of the illegals paid into the economy. Now we're taking that away and spending who knows what to create chaos.
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$2T so far
13 hours later and I had the arrogance to think I had an original comment.
And you italicized it! Well done!
Who knew that Tarriffs, a historically bad idea when used broadly and heavily, would be bad for an economy propped up by massive consumer debt and a stock market existing solely on speculation/over valuation?
Let's cancel student loans too, that will own the libs!
It was worth a shot.
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As bad as this is, it can still get a lot worse. The market seems to be pricing in a high probability that Trump will reverse course. If the tariffs stay on for at least a few months, there will certainly be a recession, probably a depression, and possibly social unrest that will take decades to fully recover from.
When things really crash is when the rich will decide to pay their cash and start buying up shit, and then we will think the economy recovered but really all that happened is another wealth redistribution in the wrong direction
Maybe but it could crash anyways. JP Morgan tried to stabilize the stock market in 1929 by buying up stocks, but it collapsed anyways and led to the Great Depression.
As an impoverished no body with nothing to lose in this country, I’ve just been laughing my ass off.
This is bad for us too. A cratering stock market slows down hiring which depresses wages and makes it harder to find work.
Yeah, it’s absolutely fucked. My laughter comes from a place of being glad that some faces got ripped to shreds by leopards and then also because it’s the only thing to keep my mind from totally fizzing out from this mountainous heap of daily shit we’re subjected to. And then the rest of the world is getting dragged into it so fuck. Just fuck.
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Stable genius working his special magic in advance of the Super Bigly Oligarchs’ Enormous Clearance Sale of resources & remnants of US governmental assets!!!
You know what I find funny. The US fucking whinges about China nearly all the time. Yet they seek to become Insular and Autarkic. They make the same mistake the Qing Dynasty did.
Edit Addendum: The Qing dynasty, is often seen as prizing its material abundance and cultural legacy so highly that it sometimes failed to adapt to new challenges and technological advancements. This narrow focus is often cited as one of the factors that contributed to their eventual decline.
Equating the greatness or state of the nation with it's wealth.
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Valuation not value
we're in a recession right now. this is the beginning of one. people mass selling off their stocks to take money and that shakes all markets down the river is exactly a recession start. get ready folks.
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