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Honestly the fact that the entire country keeps getting mad at Democrats while taking an "Aw shucks, who hasn't tried to do a coup de tat or shifted blame for your actions onto a minority group. All is forgiven!" Attitude with Republicans, is...
Just fucking bizarre.
Look at the division in this thread.
A U.S. President is literally trying to recreate the conditions of 1930s Germany by tanking the economy and isolating us from our international partners.
Stop looking for someone to blame and put out the current dumpster fire before it catches the grease.
Get out and protest. Get your boots on the ground.
Yes it was the "slight corruption" that "tankies" are criticizing Dems for. Give me a break.
The population is being dumbed down by our education system and smart devices/ social media. In addition to that, Republicans' media strategy completely dominated with this election cycle. Democrat campaigns were being run like all of them were a bunch of seniors citizens who couldn't navigate the current media environment.
Republicans controlled the narrative on most all of the issues.
Why would you expect media outlets mostly owned by the Oligarchs to criticize the people the oligarchs want to put into power?
Punching down by portraying people you theoretically want on your side as villains is not a winning strategy for anyone left of centre. Dividing people only helps the right, no matter who is doing it. I don't even think ordinary folks who've been conned into believing (Maple) MAGA-esque propaganda should automatically be bashed in every case-- just persons in positions of significant power. The priority should always be to seek opportunities to genuinely win folks over.
Yeah no. You're trying to make a simple question a more complex debate than it ever was. Either you voted for Kamala or you didn't. You can have lofty opinions and idealistic aspirations, but that isn't how the US electoral system works. If you didn't vote for Kamala then you have a part of the responsibility for the current state of affairs.
If the US had a different system of government then you might have a point, but within the system we have you had a choice. If you didn't make the right choice then you're part of the problem. This statement isn't specific to you, it's to everyone who had this choice.
Part of the US system, whether you like it or not, is playing the game. Even Bernie Sanders played the game when he ran for office. The only fools are the people who think they can ignore the game, play stupid games, win stupid prizes, and still act like they aren't part of the problem.
Yeah no. Our goal is not to win the last election.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_United_States_elections
It's useful to understand what happened and why, but our focus had to be on what to do now.
Bullshit. The last election and the next election may be separate things. You might support the right group in the next election, but that doesn't mean you didn't fuck up in the last election. Either you voted for Kamala in the last election or you didn't and as a consequence of that you led to the problem we are currently in.
You have the opportunity to vote against this problem next time, if there is a next time, but that doesn't absolve you from your past mistakes. Don't be a child and hide from past mistakes, admit them and change, don't pretend they weren't mistakes.
This discussion is about owning mistakes, not forgiving them. I'm happy to forgive someone for making a mistake, but before forgiveness comes repentance.
The previous post I responded to said that we shouldn't be "Punching down by portraying people you theoretically want on your side as villains." Well at some point those people need to take responsibility for their own actions rather than pretending they didn't have a part to play.
Maybe when Medicare and Social Security are gone, nonviolent immigrants are in a prison in El Salvador, and trans people are arrested for taking a piss you might start to change your opinion about the last election.