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I recently got a "new" bike to replace my stolen one, and my one complaint about is that the lowest gear is still too high for some of the hills I ride on. Now, I counted 26 teeth on the largest gear on the cassette. Can I just get a new cassette with more teeth, adjust the derailleur and be done?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

The short answer: it categorically depends. One measurement is worth a thousand opinions.

The detailed answer: For this discussion, rear derailleurs (RD) have two critical dimensions: max cog and max wrap. Max cog is the largest rear cog the derailleur can accommodate without resorting to a something such as a GoatLink or RoadLink (derailleur extension). Don't use these unless you really understand what you're doing.

Max wrap is a quantification of how much chain slack the RD can take up up. Adding more chain does nothing to increase max wrap. Max wrap is

(largest chainring - smallest chainring) + (largest cog - smallest cog)

If you look at that Shimano derailleur, somewhere you will find a model number, typically on the medial side of the medial parallelogram arm. Looking that up on Shimano's website will tell you exactly what you are able to do with that drivetrain, i.e. whether you can add a larger cassette and whether your chainrings are a-ok or too tall with the larger cassette.

You can cover up some sins by adding more chain, but that has follow-on effects that you might not like. Cross-chaining, especially small-small can catastrophically drop the chain, as happened to, uh, "someone I knew." :D

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

basically yes

unless you need to change the chain too for a longer one

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

There's an 8 speed shimano cassette with 30 teeth on a bent wheel in the bike storage... I'm tempted to make use of that, it's been there for at least a year, probably wheel was locked and someone stole the rest.

I hope I don't need a longer chain, I changed it just yesterday

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] avidamoeba 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah I've no idea what the teeth capacity on this is, changing a chainring is likely easier and less risky.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Alternately, you could get a smaller chainring, then you shouldn't have to worry about getting a longer chain.

But chain length could still come into play in certain gearing combinations, if a smaller chainring allows enough extra slack in the chain then it's possible that certain gear combinations could cause the chain to get caught up in the derailleur.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yes, within limits. From your picture I'm guessing you have a short-cage derailleur, which should have no problem fitting a 28-tooth large gear. You can try larger, but might need a longer derailleur.

You might need a longer chain to fit the bigger gear. It's good practice to replace your chain at the same time you replace your cassette, anyway.

Another option might be to switch out your chainring(s) for a smaller size.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Edit: removed the long version. whatever. People here don't know what they are talking about. There is no chance that a chain setup for 26t is going to fit a 30t cassette with a short cage derailleur and survive a big cog cross chained big chainring event unless the original setup was too slack in small/small already.